I'd ring that
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Over time, that is what normally happens to language (even French, yeah looking at you Gauls).
But, English and especially North American English is so predominate in the world, that may stop its otherwise natural development.
/not a linguist just friends with some.
Even French? a lot of the horribly spelled words in English are their fault!
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English has the problem of taking words literally from other languages including the pronunciation.
Kindergarden - > German. The I gets pronounced differently.
Tibia - > Latin. Fuck who knows how it is pronounced, just do what you want.
Bureaucracy - > French. Yeah well the French hate people who want to learn their language, I guess. Nothing is written like it is pronounced
Kindergarden - > German. The I gets pronounced differently.
Tinder.
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surely it should be "wound" anyway?
"Woond?"
"No, Wownd!"
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I just wouldn't think to look up a word I assumed I was pronouncing correctly. I'm pretty good at this reading thing, and so I apply the standards, but words like epitome and ethereal are just here to fuck with us.
I can't imagine "ethereal" being pronounced any other way than the correct one. "Etha-real?"
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Better to corrected than let things get too awry.
Awry.
Awwww-reeeeeeeeeeee..........It had the quality of being awr. It was awry.
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Apparently "nihilism" is meant to be pronounced like "nee-hilism", but if you say it like that, nobody knows what the fuck you're trying to say.
If you want to change pronunciations to be closer to the original language the word derives from, you'd be changing most of English.
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Who the hell pronounced nougat as new-git?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Americans. Probably Canadians, too. Although it's more "-gut" than "-git."
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Do you also hear Caramel pronounced as Carmel? I hate that one...
That's a regional thing in the US. I've always pronounced the second a.
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I've looked it up a bunch of times and I still don't know if potable is "POTE-ah-bull" or "POT-ah-bull"
I say it the first way. I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
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My buddy says "chasm" with a soft ch. We've tried to correct him. He doesn't hear us. He also pronounces "tome" like "tomb".
We play DnD together if anyone was wondering why these words would come up with any regularity.
PTSD flashback to my ESL little self always mispronouncing choir after they told me to join to practice my English.
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I know, and phone calls are more annoying for neurodivergent people like me, although I get the reverse is true for old people. I had a job that featured looking up data and for any given active company with employees in Czechia, there is over 90% chance you get an address you can visit (they are legally required to list one but there are obfuscation services), about 70% for some kind of maintained web presence outside the legal registry, and some 50% for a working phone number. The latter two are roughly reversed for one-person establishments.
What happened is that I heard a Czechoslovak emmigrant to the US rambling while visiting his homeland that "phone books are useless in Czechoslo- uh - Czechia because companies aren't required by the Constitution [sic] to keep their data updated there".
I'm old and I HATE dealing with things on a phone call.
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To distinguish it from taut which is pronounced the exact same way.
We didn't bother with wind, wind, live, live, etc.
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I knew a girl who was raised in a small town in the middle of nowhere, without TV or movies, but she read a lot. She had so many things like that. Yosemite rhymed with hose-mite.
My family has Swedish relatives that pronounced it "Yohss-meet."
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Just the fact that we can have a whole contest around the idea, and that there's still room for words contestants haven't seen before, illustrates just how insane English is.
English isn't really a language. It's at least three languages in a trench coat.
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For what it's worth, her name is pronounced differently in different languages. Whereas it's "her-my-nee" in English, it's "Hermine" (long i + schwa-sound for the e at the end) in German and "Гермиона" (Germiona) in Russian
It's "Her-my-uh-nee" in English.
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I dunno. People correcting me on this stuff like an asshole just give away what fucking assholes they are. Its one of many mechanisms that helps me cut past the bullshit and realize who is absolute fucking scum by the way they treat others.
Edit: Interesting how so much privilege is in here assuming no assholes exist and things don't happen. Try being disabled in any way in high school or certain workplaces. I have experienced it numerous times, and I've witnessed it done to others.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I appreciate being told the correct pronunciation of something, as long as it isn't done in a dickish way.
Also, *gives, *It's
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"Gow-deh! Gow-deh!"
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I can't imagine "ethereal" being pronounced any other way than the correct one. "Etha-real?"
Pretty much, yeah. Eth-er-eal.
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Guess he is a clumsy Clouseau-esque waiter!
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I know Yosemite, from Yosemite Sam cartoons
That was actually the context of when she said it - she read the bugs bunny comic books (which I didn't know existed) and said that character's name.