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  • S [email protected]

    Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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    Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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    • D [email protected]

      The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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      Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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      • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

        It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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        You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

        $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

        Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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        • B [email protected]

          Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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          Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
          (That's) (great!)

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          • B [email protected]

            Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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            Lisps makes more sense to me though

            (if condition a b)

            VS

            a if condition else b

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            • V [email protected]

              Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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              Because of all the garbage

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              • L [email protected]

                You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                #46

                You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                • V [email protected]

                  Full circle 😆

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                  Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                    Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                      Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                      * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                      The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                        * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                        The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                        Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Because of all the garbage

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                          Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Lisps makes more sense to me though

                            (if condition a b)

                            VS

                            a if condition else b

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                            I was more talking about (+ a b) and such.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                              At least you guys have ternary syntax cries in kotlin.

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                              • L [email protected]

                                You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                perl -e 'print "fart\n" if 1;'

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  You know, the stuff in @_

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                                  heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                  • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                    heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                    The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

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                                      The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

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                                      It certainly has its issues. I find that the things people have trouble with are the things I tend to like about it. Of course, reading it later is a problem sometimes. 🙂

                                      Write only language!

                                      I still reach for it sometimes.

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                                        Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                                        No they're not supposed to be piling it up

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                                        • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                          It certainly has its issues. I find that the things people have trouble with are the things I tend to like about it. Of course, reading it later is a problem sometimes. 🙂

                                          Write only language!

                                          I still reach for it sometimes.

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                                          The point of code is to be read by other humans, not just computers.

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