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  • W [email protected]

    You would not believe the number of people I’ve interviewed who excel at making Python read like ass.

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    I mean, it does have enough ways to write the same thing that it can really allow for some funny code golf, but some people just have no sense of readability whatsoever.

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    • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

      It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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      That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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      • S [email protected]

        That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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        Argument?

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          #34

          print( ["even", "odd"][num % 2] )

          If you need to avoid evaluating the wrong branch:

          print( [lambda: "even", lambda: "odd"][num % 2]() )

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            #35

            For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

            inline_python::python! {
                print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
            };
            
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            • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

              Argument?

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              #36

              You know, the stuff in @_

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              • satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                Are you just referring to how Python uses the English and/or instead of the more common &&/||? I think what the user above you was talking about was Lua's strange ternary syntax using and/or.

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                #37

                no, the linked table shows how python also returns the first non-falsey result of an a or b expression rather than just giving a boolean. it's useful for initialising optional reference args:

                def foo(a: list = None)
                    a = a or []
                

                works with and as well.

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                • E [email protected]

                  For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

                  inline_python::python! {
                      print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
                  };
                  
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                  #38

                  And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                    And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                    #39

                    Full circle 😆

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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                      Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                      • D [email protected]

                        The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                        #41

                        Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                        • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                          It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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                          You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                          $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                          Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                            Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
                            (That's) (great!)

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                              #44

                              Lisps makes more sense to me though

                              (if condition a b)

                              VS

                              a if condition else b

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                              • V [email protected]

                                Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                                Because of all the garbage

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                  $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                  Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                  You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    Full circle 😆

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                                    #47

                                    Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                                      Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                                        Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                                        * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                                        The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                                          * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                                          The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                                          Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

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