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  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

    Ah that makes sense.

    satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #29

    It doesn't make sense. I understand it, but it doesn't make sense.

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

      Python is kinda like that in general, unless you try to make it read like ass

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      #30

      You would not believe the number of people I’ve interviewed who excel at making Python read like ass.

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        You would not believe the number of people I’ve interviewed who excel at making Python read like ass.

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        I mean, it does have enough ways to write the same thing that it can really allow for some funny code golf, but some people just have no sense of readability whatsoever.

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        • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

          It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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          That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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            That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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            #33

            Argument?

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              #34

              print( ["even", "odd"][num % 2] )

              If you need to avoid evaluating the wrong branch:

              print( [lambda: "even", lambda: "odd"][num % 2]() )

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              • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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                For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

                inline_python::python! {
                    print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
                };
                
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                • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                  Argument?

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                  #36

                  You know, the stuff in @_

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                  • satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                    Are you just referring to how Python uses the English and/or instead of the more common &&/||? I think what the user above you was talking about was Lua's strange ternary syntax using and/or.

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                    #37

                    no, the linked table shows how python also returns the first non-falsey result of an a or b expression rather than just giving a boolean. it's useful for initialising optional reference args:

                    def foo(a: list = None)
                        a = a or []
                    

                    works with and as well.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

                      inline_python::python! {
                          print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
                      };
                      
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                      #38

                      And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                        And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                        #39

                        Full circle 😆

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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                          Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                            The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                            #41

                            Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                            • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                              It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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                              You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                              $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                              Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                                Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
                                (That's) (great!)

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                                  #44

                                  Lisps makes more sense to me though

                                  (if condition a b)

                                  VS

                                  a if condition else b

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                                  • V [email protected]

                                    Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                                    Because of all the garbage

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                      $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                      Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                      #46

                                      You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                                      • V [email protected]

                                        Full circle 😆

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                                        Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                                        • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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                                          Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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