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  • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

    Argument?

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    You know, the stuff in @_

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    • satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

      Are you just referring to how Python uses the English and/or instead of the more common &&/||? I think what the user above you was talking about was Lua's strange ternary syntax using and/or.

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      #37

      no, the linked table shows how python also returns the first non-falsey result of an a or b expression rather than just giving a boolean. it's useful for initialising optional reference args:

      def foo(a: list = None)
          a = a or []
      

      works with and as well.

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      • E [email protected]

        For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

        inline_python::python! {
            print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
        };
        
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        #38

        And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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          And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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          #39

          Full circle 😆

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          • S [email protected]

            Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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            Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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            • D [email protected]

              The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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              Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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              • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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                You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                  Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
                  (That's) (great!)

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                    #44

                    Lisps makes more sense to me though

                    (if condition a b)

                    VS

                    a if condition else b

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                    • V [email protected]

                      Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                      Because of all the garbage

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                      • L [email protected]

                        You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                        $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                        Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                        You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                          Full circle 😆

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                          Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                            Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                              Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                              * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                              The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                                * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                                The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                                Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

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                                  Because of all the garbage

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                                  Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Lisps makes more sense to me though

                                    (if condition a b)

                                    VS

                                    a if condition else b

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                                    I was more talking about (+ a b) and such.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                                      At least you guys have ternary syntax cries in kotlin.

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                                      • L [email protected]

                                        You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                        $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                        Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                        perl -e 'print "fart\n" if 1;'

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          You know, the stuff in @_

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                                          heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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