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  • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

    Python is kinda like that in general, unless you try to make it read like ass

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    You would not believe the number of people I’ve interviewed who excel at making Python read like ass.

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      You would not believe the number of people I’ve interviewed who excel at making Python read like ass.

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      I mean, it does have enough ways to write the same thing that it can really allow for some funny code golf, but some people just have no sense of readability whatsoever.

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      • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

        It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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        That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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          That's not quite the argument you might think it is

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          Argument?

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            print( ["even", "odd"][num % 2] )

            If you need to avoid evaluating the wrong branch:

            print( [lambda: "even", lambda: "odd"][num % 2]() )

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              For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

              inline_python::python! {
                  print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
              };
              
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              • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                Argument?

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                You know, the stuff in @_

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                • satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                  Are you just referring to how Python uses the English and/or instead of the more common &&/||? I think what the user above you was talking about was Lua's strange ternary syntax using and/or.

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                  no, the linked table shows how python also returns the first non-falsey result of an a or b expression rather than just giving a boolean. it's useful for initialising optional reference args:

                  def foo(a: list = None)
                      a = a or []
                  

                  works with and as well.

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                    For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

                    inline_python::python! {
                        print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
                    };
                    
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                    And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                      And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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                      #39

                      Full circle 😆

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                        Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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                        Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                          The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                          Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                          • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                            It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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                            You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                            $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                            Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                              Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                              Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
                              (That's) (great!)

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                                Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                                Lisps makes more sense to me though

                                (if condition a b)

                                VS

                                a if condition else b

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                                  Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                                  Because of all the garbage

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                    $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                    Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                    You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                                      Full circle 😆

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                                      Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                                        Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                                          You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                                          Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                                          * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                                          The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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