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  • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

    ActivityPub DMs are not encrypted between servers

    It is insofar as TLS/SSL/HTTPS encryption is used in transit. That’s what I mean by encrypted in transit.

    i could read anyone’s DMs to users on other servers

    If you’re an administrator for (WordPress) ActivityPub server A, you can see all the DMs coming to and leaving from your server, yes. And they’re not encrypted at rest, so you can read them any time. But how would you see DMs going between server B and server C, when your server isn’t involved in the transaction?

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    #14

    It apparently scrapes everything on the public feed. So when I subscribed to users on Mastodon server A from Wordpress, DMs from Mastodon server A going to Mastodon server B became visible.

    I had a separate account on Mastodon server A to confirm that I couldn't see these DMs as Mastodon user on server A, and that the Wordpress scrape was grabbing messages normally not meant for public view.

    This was using the ActivityPub plugin for Wordpress about six months ago.

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    • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

      Proton

      Signal

      What are they gonna do? Download gibberish?! Lol, it's all end-to-end encrypted with the decryption keys stored locally.

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      #15

      Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

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      • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

        Aww man seriously DuckDuckGo is on the list? Fuckin' traitors...

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        #16

        Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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        • tuxenthusiast@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

          I mean Sweden asked for a backdoor recently, maybe they're jealous of the US lol

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          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          Lol yeah I heard about that. Apparently they also preemptively made post-quantum encryption illegal? Yeah, I don't like the US, but I'm not sure I'd wanna live in Sweden, that's for sure.

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          • D [email protected]

            Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            Oof, yeah I forgot about the metadata... What you say is certainly true and is worrisome.

            Plus, most people who use email don't use encrypted email so even if they can't get a transcript of a conversation from my account, they can certainly get everything from the other account if they also scrape that platform.

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            • D [email protected]

              Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

              everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on last edited by
              #19

              Oh shit.

              Well that clears things up. Thanks for the explanation. thumbs-up

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              • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                Here's the full list of names:

                4chan Archives

                Discord Archives

                21Buttons

                500px

                about.me

                AllMyLinks

                AllTrails

                Amazon

                Ameba

                Amino

                AnimePlanet

                Apple Music

                Artists&Clients

                Asciinema

                AudioJungle

                AudiUSA

                BabyCenter

                Baidu

                BeReal

                Bigo Live

                Bing

                Biolink

                BitChute

                BlackPlanet

                Blogger

                Bluesky

                Bodybuilding

                BookCrossing

                Breaches

                BuyMeACoffee

                Cash App

                CastingCall Club

                Chaturbate

                Chess.com

                Cigar Dojo

                CityXGuide

                CloutHub

                Cocolog

                Companies House

                Cozy.tv

                Cracked

                Creema

                Dailymotion

                Danbooru

                Dark Web

                DeepL

                DeviantArt

                Disqus

                DLive

                Dot.cards

                Douyin

                Drum

                DuckDuckGo

                Duolingo

                E621

                eBay

                Eporner

                Etsy

                Facebook

                Fansly

                FastPeopleSearch

                Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                FetLife

                Fiverr

                Flickr

                FlightAware

                Foursquare

                FriendFinder

                FurAffinity

                Gab

                Gaia Online

                GameFAQs

                Gelbooru

                GeneralMotors

                Geocaching

                GeoEstimation

                Gettr

                Giphy

                GitHub

                Glassdoor

                GoFundMe

                Goo

                Google

                Goodreads

                Gravatar

                Guancha

                GunBroker

                Habbo

                Hackaday

                Hatena

                Honda

                Hubski

                ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                ImageShack

                Imgur

                IMVU

                Indeed

                Instagram

                Instructables

                JudyRecords

                Jugem

                JustForFans

                Keybase

                Kick

                Kik

                Last.fm

                LibraryThing

                Lichess

                Likee

                Line

                LinkedIn

                Linktree

                LiveIn

                LiveJournal

                Lobsters

                Mail.ru

                Malgari

                MapMyTracks

                Marshmallow

                MarTech

                Massage Anywhere

                Medium

                MeetMe

                Mercari Jp

                MeWe

                Minds

                Minecraft

                Mix

                Mixlr

                ModDB

                Mughosts

                MyFitnessPal

                Myspace

                MySubaru

                Naijapals

                Nextdoor

                NissanUSA

                Odysee

                OFAC Sanctions List

                OkCupid

                OK.ru

                OnlyFans

                Pandia

                Pandora

                Passes

                Pastebin

                Patreon

                PayPal

                PCGamer

                Peloton

                PGP

                Pinterest

                Plurk

                Poal

                Popl

                Pornhub

                Poshmark

                Product Hunt

                ProtonMail

                PSNProfiles

                Reblogme

                Reddit

                RedGifs

                Replit

                ReverbNation

                Roblox

                Rule34.xxx

                Rumble

                Rutube

                ScoutWiki

                Seesaa

                Seneporno

                Signal

                SkipTheGames

                Skype

                SlideShare

                Snapchat

                Sogou

                SoundCloud

                SourceForge

                Spiceworks

                Spotify

                Sprashivai

                Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                StellantisEU

                StellantisUSA

                Strava

                Stripchat

                Substack

                TechNet

                Telegram

                Tellows

                Tesseract OCR

                Threads

                TikTok

                Tinder

                TinEye

                ToyotaUSA

                Trakt

                Triller

                TripAdvisor

                TrueCaller

                TruthSocial

                Tumblr

                Twilio

                Twitch

                Twitter

                Untappd

                Venmo

                VidLii

                Vimeo

                Vine

                VirusTotal

                VK

                Volkswagen

                VSCO

                WatchMeMore

                Weibo

                WhatsApp

                Wire

                Wordfeud

                Xbox

                xHamster

                XING

                XVideos

                Yahoo

                Yandex

                Yappy

                YCombinator

                Yelp

                YouTube

                Zhihu

                Zillow

                ZoneH

                captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                Reddit is there.

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                • D [email protected]

                  Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                  DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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                  • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                    Reddit is there.

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                    #22

                    Thank you sir - I've posted an edit with a credit to your astute eye.

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                      #23

                      What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                      • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                        Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                        In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                        Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                        Here's the full list of names:

                        4chan Archives

                        Discord Archives

                        21Buttons

                        500px

                        about.me

                        AllMyLinks

                        AllTrails

                        Amazon

                        Ameba

                        Amino

                        AnimePlanet

                        Apple Music

                        Artists&Clients

                        Asciinema

                        AudioJungle

                        AudiUSA

                        BabyCenter

                        Baidu

                        BeReal

                        Bigo Live

                        Bing

                        Biolink

                        BitChute

                        BlackPlanet

                        Blogger

                        Bluesky

                        Bodybuilding

                        BookCrossing

                        Breaches

                        BuyMeACoffee

                        Cash App

                        CastingCall Club

                        Chaturbate

                        Chess.com

                        Cigar Dojo

                        CityXGuide

                        CloutHub

                        Cocolog

                        Companies House

                        Cozy.tv

                        Cracked

                        Creema

                        Dailymotion

                        Danbooru

                        Dark Web

                        DeepL

                        DeviantArt

                        Disqus

                        DLive

                        Dot.cards

                        Douyin

                        Drum

                        DuckDuckGo

                        Duolingo

                        E621

                        eBay

                        Eporner

                        Etsy

                        Facebook

                        Fansly

                        FastPeopleSearch

                        Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                        FetLife

                        Fiverr

                        Flickr

                        FlightAware

                        Foursquare

                        FriendFinder

                        FurAffinity

                        Gab

                        Gaia Online

                        GameFAQs

                        Gelbooru

                        GeneralMotors

                        Geocaching

                        GeoEstimation

                        Gettr

                        Giphy

                        GitHub

                        Glassdoor

                        GoFundMe

                        Goo

                        Google

                        Goodreads

                        Gravatar

                        Guancha

                        GunBroker

                        Habbo

                        Hackaday

                        Hatena

                        Honda

                        Hubski

                        ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                        ImageShack

                        Imgur

                        IMVU

                        Indeed

                        Instagram

                        Instructables

                        JudyRecords

                        Jugem

                        JustForFans

                        Keybase

                        Kick

                        Kik

                        Last.fm

                        LibraryThing

                        Lichess

                        Likee

                        Line

                        LinkedIn

                        Linktree

                        LiveIn

                        LiveJournal

                        Lobsters

                        Mail.ru

                        Malgari

                        MapMyTracks

                        Marshmallow

                        MarTech

                        Massage Anywhere

                        Medium

                        MeetMe

                        Mercari Jp

                        MeWe

                        Minds

                        Minecraft

                        Mix

                        Mixlr

                        ModDB

                        Mughosts

                        MyFitnessPal

                        Myspace

                        MySubaru

                        Naijapals

                        Nextdoor

                        NissanUSA

                        Odysee

                        OFAC Sanctions List

                        OkCupid

                        OK.ru

                        OnlyFans

                        Pandia

                        Pandora

                        Passes

                        Pastebin

                        Patreon

                        PayPal

                        PCGamer

                        Peloton

                        PGP

                        Pinterest

                        Plurk

                        Poal

                        Popl

                        Pornhub

                        Poshmark

                        Product Hunt

                        ProtonMail

                        PSNProfiles

                        Reblogme

                        Reddit

                        RedGifs

                        Replit

                        ReverbNation

                        Roblox

                        Rule34.xxx

                        Rumble

                        Rutube

                        ScoutWiki

                        Seesaa

                        Seneporno

                        Signal

                        SkipTheGames

                        Skype

                        SlideShare

                        Snapchat

                        Sogou

                        SoundCloud

                        SourceForge

                        Spiceworks

                        Spotify

                        Sprashivai

                        Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                        StellantisEU

                        StellantisUSA

                        Strava

                        Stripchat

                        Substack

                        TechNet

                        Telegram

                        Tellows

                        Tesseract OCR

                        Threads

                        TikTok

                        Tinder

                        TinEye

                        ToyotaUSA

                        Trakt

                        Triller

                        TripAdvisor

                        TrueCaller

                        TruthSocial

                        Tumblr

                        Twilio

                        Twitch

                        Twitter

                        Untappd

                        Venmo

                        VidLii

                        Vimeo

                        Vine

                        VirusTotal

                        VK

                        Volkswagen

                        VSCO

                        WatchMeMore

                        Weibo

                        WhatsApp

                        Wire

                        Wordfeud

                        Xbox

                        xHamster

                        XING

                        XVideos

                        Yahoo

                        Yandex

                        Yappy

                        YCombinator

                        Yelp

                        YouTube

                        Zhihu

                        Zillow

                        ZoneH

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                        #24

                        Why tf is PGP, tesseract ocr, and deepl on this list. Deepl is literally just a machine translation service, users don't post onto it. tesseract ocr is a downloadable software for ocr. PGP is encryption.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                          DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          They do it all to build up a huge web of interconnected data points. Duckduckgo itself they might take as evidence that someone is trying to hide something. Then the government goes to a FISA court and gets permission to have other tech companies hand over all your data. Its not any one site its the picture that can be gleamed from all the data available across all the sites.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                            #26

                            Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                              #27

                              How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                              • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                                In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                                Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                                Here's the full list of names:

                                4chan Archives

                                Discord Archives

                                21Buttons

                                500px

                                about.me

                                AllMyLinks

                                AllTrails

                                Amazon

                                Ameba

                                Amino

                                AnimePlanet

                                Apple Music

                                Artists&Clients

                                Asciinema

                                AudioJungle

                                AudiUSA

                                BabyCenter

                                Baidu

                                BeReal

                                Bigo Live

                                Bing

                                Biolink

                                BitChute

                                BlackPlanet

                                Blogger

                                Bluesky

                                Bodybuilding

                                BookCrossing

                                Breaches

                                BuyMeACoffee

                                Cash App

                                CastingCall Club

                                Chaturbate

                                Chess.com

                                Cigar Dojo

                                CityXGuide

                                CloutHub

                                Cocolog

                                Companies House

                                Cozy.tv

                                Cracked

                                Creema

                                Dailymotion

                                Danbooru

                                Dark Web

                                DeepL

                                DeviantArt

                                Disqus

                                DLive

                                Dot.cards

                                Douyin

                                Drum

                                DuckDuckGo

                                Duolingo

                                E621

                                eBay

                                Eporner

                                Etsy

                                Facebook

                                Fansly

                                FastPeopleSearch

                                Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                                FetLife

                                Fiverr

                                Flickr

                                FlightAware

                                Foursquare

                                FriendFinder

                                FurAffinity

                                Gab

                                Gaia Online

                                GameFAQs

                                Gelbooru

                                GeneralMotors

                                Geocaching

                                GeoEstimation

                                Gettr

                                Giphy

                                GitHub

                                Glassdoor

                                GoFundMe

                                Goo

                                Google

                                Goodreads

                                Gravatar

                                Guancha

                                GunBroker

                                Habbo

                                Hackaday

                                Hatena

                                Honda

                                Hubski

                                ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                                ImageShack

                                Imgur

                                IMVU

                                Indeed

                                Instagram

                                Instructables

                                JudyRecords

                                Jugem

                                JustForFans

                                Keybase

                                Kick

                                Kik

                                Last.fm

                                LibraryThing

                                Lichess

                                Likee

                                Line

                                LinkedIn

                                Linktree

                                LiveIn

                                LiveJournal

                                Lobsters

                                Mail.ru

                                Malgari

                                MapMyTracks

                                Marshmallow

                                MarTech

                                Massage Anywhere

                                Medium

                                MeetMe

                                Mercari Jp

                                MeWe

                                Minds

                                Minecraft

                                Mix

                                Mixlr

                                ModDB

                                Mughosts

                                MyFitnessPal

                                Myspace

                                MySubaru

                                Naijapals

                                Nextdoor

                                NissanUSA

                                Odysee

                                OFAC Sanctions List

                                OkCupid

                                OK.ru

                                OnlyFans

                                Pandia

                                Pandora

                                Passes

                                Pastebin

                                Patreon

                                PayPal

                                PCGamer

                                Peloton

                                PGP

                                Pinterest

                                Plurk

                                Poal

                                Popl

                                Pornhub

                                Poshmark

                                Product Hunt

                                ProtonMail

                                PSNProfiles

                                Reblogme

                                Reddit

                                RedGifs

                                Replit

                                ReverbNation

                                Roblox

                                Rule34.xxx

                                Rumble

                                Rutube

                                ScoutWiki

                                Seesaa

                                Seneporno

                                Signal

                                SkipTheGames

                                Skype

                                SlideShare

                                Snapchat

                                Sogou

                                SoundCloud

                                SourceForge

                                Spiceworks

                                Spotify

                                Sprashivai

                                Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                                StellantisEU

                                StellantisUSA

                                Strava

                                Stripchat

                                Substack

                                TechNet

                                Telegram

                                Tellows

                                Tesseract OCR

                                Threads

                                TikTok

                                Tinder

                                TinEye

                                ToyotaUSA

                                Trakt

                                Triller

                                TripAdvisor

                                TrueCaller

                                TruthSocial

                                Tumblr

                                Twilio

                                Twitch

                                Twitter

                                Untappd

                                Venmo

                                VidLii

                                Vimeo

                                Vine

                                VirusTotal

                                VK

                                Volkswagen

                                VSCO

                                WatchMeMore

                                Weibo

                                WhatsApp

                                Wire

                                Wordfeud

                                Xbox

                                xHamster

                                XING

                                XVideos

                                Yahoo

                                Yandex

                                Yappy

                                YCombinator

                                Yelp

                                YouTube

                                Zhihu

                                Zillow

                                ZoneH

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                                Vine? Didn’t that close down back in 2016?

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                                  How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                                  Not really necessary people make DNS requests which are pretty easy to track if you know what URL was requested that will be the exact product. This can all be done by man in the middle and monitoring network traffic. But even that is sort of unnecessary. They could very possibly have contracts with ISPs or other network operators some of that is likely just secret and they dont disclose it.

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