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  • D [email protected]

    Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

    everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
    everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Oof, yeah I forgot about the metadata... What you say is certainly true and is worrisome.

    Plus, most people who use email don't use encrypted email so even if they can't get a transcript of a conversation from my account, they can certainly get everything from the other account if they also scrape that platform.

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    • D [email protected]

      Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

      everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      Oh shit.

      Well that clears things up. Thanks for the explanation. thumbs-up

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      • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

        Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

        In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

        Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

        Here's the full list of names:

        4chan Archives

        Discord Archives

        21Buttons

        500px

        about.me

        AllMyLinks

        AllTrails

        Amazon

        Ameba

        Amino

        AnimePlanet

        Apple Music

        Artists&Clients

        Asciinema

        AudioJungle

        AudiUSA

        BabyCenter

        Baidu

        BeReal

        Bigo Live

        Bing

        Biolink

        BitChute

        BlackPlanet

        Blogger

        Bluesky

        Bodybuilding

        BookCrossing

        Breaches

        BuyMeACoffee

        Cash App

        CastingCall Club

        Chaturbate

        Chess.com

        Cigar Dojo

        CityXGuide

        CloutHub

        Cocolog

        Companies House

        Cozy.tv

        Cracked

        Creema

        Dailymotion

        Danbooru

        Dark Web

        DeepL

        DeviantArt

        Disqus

        DLive

        Dot.cards

        Douyin

        Drum

        DuckDuckGo

        Duolingo

        E621

        eBay

        Eporner

        Etsy

        Facebook

        Fansly

        FastPeopleSearch

        Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

        FetLife

        Fiverr

        Flickr

        FlightAware

        Foursquare

        FriendFinder

        FurAffinity

        Gab

        Gaia Online

        GameFAQs

        Gelbooru

        GeneralMotors

        Geocaching

        GeoEstimation

        Gettr

        Giphy

        GitHub

        Glassdoor

        GoFundMe

        Goo

        Google

        Goodreads

        Gravatar

        Guancha

        GunBroker

        Habbo

        Hackaday

        Hatena

        Honda

        Hubski

        ILoveGrowingMarijuana

        ImageShack

        Imgur

        IMVU

        Indeed

        Instagram

        Instructables

        JudyRecords

        Jugem

        JustForFans

        Keybase

        Kick

        Kik

        Last.fm

        LibraryThing

        Lichess

        Likee

        Line

        LinkedIn

        Linktree

        LiveIn

        LiveJournal

        Lobsters

        Mail.ru

        Malgari

        MapMyTracks

        Marshmallow

        MarTech

        Massage Anywhere

        Medium

        MeetMe

        Mercari Jp

        MeWe

        Minds

        Minecraft

        Mix

        Mixlr

        ModDB

        Mughosts

        MyFitnessPal

        Myspace

        MySubaru

        Naijapals

        Nextdoor

        NissanUSA

        Odysee

        OFAC Sanctions List

        OkCupid

        OK.ru

        OnlyFans

        Pandia

        Pandora

        Passes

        Pastebin

        Patreon

        PayPal

        PCGamer

        Peloton

        PGP

        Pinterest

        Plurk

        Poal

        Popl

        Pornhub

        Poshmark

        Product Hunt

        ProtonMail

        PSNProfiles

        Reblogme

        Reddit

        RedGifs

        Replit

        ReverbNation

        Roblox

        Rule34.xxx

        Rumble

        Rutube

        ScoutWiki

        Seesaa

        Seneporno

        Signal

        SkipTheGames

        Skype

        SlideShare

        Snapchat

        Sogou

        SoundCloud

        SourceForge

        Spiceworks

        Spotify

        Sprashivai

        Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

        StellantisEU

        StellantisUSA

        Strava

        Stripchat

        Substack

        TechNet

        Telegram

        Tellows

        Tesseract OCR

        Threads

        TikTok

        Tinder

        TinEye

        ToyotaUSA

        Trakt

        Triller

        TripAdvisor

        TrueCaller

        TruthSocial

        Tumblr

        Twilio

        Twitch

        Twitter

        Untappd

        Venmo

        VidLii

        Vimeo

        Vine

        VirusTotal

        VK

        Volkswagen

        VSCO

        WatchMeMore

        Weibo

        WhatsApp

        Wire

        Wordfeud

        Xbox

        xHamster

        XING

        XVideos

        Yahoo

        Yandex

        Yappy

        YCombinator

        Yelp

        YouTube

        Zhihu

        Zillow

        ZoneH

        captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        Reddit is there.

        arotrios@lemmy.worldA 1 Reply Last reply
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        • D [email protected]

          Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

          R This user is from outside of this forum
          R This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

          DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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          • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

            Reddit is there.

            arotrios@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
            arotrios@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            Thank you sir - I've posted an edit with a credit to your astute eye.

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            • D [email protected]
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              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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              • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                Here's the full list of names:

                4chan Archives

                Discord Archives

                21Buttons

                500px

                about.me

                AllMyLinks

                AllTrails

                Amazon

                Ameba

                Amino

                AnimePlanet

                Apple Music

                Artists&Clients

                Asciinema

                AudioJungle

                AudiUSA

                BabyCenter

                Baidu

                BeReal

                Bigo Live

                Bing

                Biolink

                BitChute

                BlackPlanet

                Blogger

                Bluesky

                Bodybuilding

                BookCrossing

                Breaches

                BuyMeACoffee

                Cash App

                CastingCall Club

                Chaturbate

                Chess.com

                Cigar Dojo

                CityXGuide

                CloutHub

                Cocolog

                Companies House

                Cozy.tv

                Cracked

                Creema

                Dailymotion

                Danbooru

                Dark Web

                DeepL

                DeviantArt

                Disqus

                DLive

                Dot.cards

                Douyin

                Drum

                DuckDuckGo

                Duolingo

                E621

                eBay

                Eporner

                Etsy

                Facebook

                Fansly

                FastPeopleSearch

                Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                FetLife

                Fiverr

                Flickr

                FlightAware

                Foursquare

                FriendFinder

                FurAffinity

                Gab

                Gaia Online

                GameFAQs

                Gelbooru

                GeneralMotors

                Geocaching

                GeoEstimation

                Gettr

                Giphy

                GitHub

                Glassdoor

                GoFundMe

                Goo

                Google

                Goodreads

                Gravatar

                Guancha

                GunBroker

                Habbo

                Hackaday

                Hatena

                Honda

                Hubski

                ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                ImageShack

                Imgur

                IMVU

                Indeed

                Instagram

                Instructables

                JudyRecords

                Jugem

                JustForFans

                Keybase

                Kick

                Kik

                Last.fm

                LibraryThing

                Lichess

                Likee

                Line

                LinkedIn

                Linktree

                LiveIn

                LiveJournal

                Lobsters

                Mail.ru

                Malgari

                MapMyTracks

                Marshmallow

                MarTech

                Massage Anywhere

                Medium

                MeetMe

                Mercari Jp

                MeWe

                Minds

                Minecraft

                Mix

                Mixlr

                ModDB

                Mughosts

                MyFitnessPal

                Myspace

                MySubaru

                Naijapals

                Nextdoor

                NissanUSA

                Odysee

                OFAC Sanctions List

                OkCupid

                OK.ru

                OnlyFans

                Pandia

                Pandora

                Passes

                Pastebin

                Patreon

                PayPal

                PCGamer

                Peloton

                PGP

                Pinterest

                Plurk

                Poal

                Popl

                Pornhub

                Poshmark

                Product Hunt

                ProtonMail

                PSNProfiles

                Reblogme

                Reddit

                RedGifs

                Replit

                ReverbNation

                Roblox

                Rule34.xxx

                Rumble

                Rutube

                ScoutWiki

                Seesaa

                Seneporno

                Signal

                SkipTheGames

                Skype

                SlideShare

                Snapchat

                Sogou

                SoundCloud

                SourceForge

                Spiceworks

                Spotify

                Sprashivai

                Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                StellantisEU

                StellantisUSA

                Strava

                Stripchat

                Substack

                TechNet

                Telegram

                Tellows

                Tesseract OCR

                Threads

                TikTok

                Tinder

                TinEye

                ToyotaUSA

                Trakt

                Triller

                TripAdvisor

                TrueCaller

                TruthSocial

                Tumblr

                Twilio

                Twitch

                Twitter

                Untappd

                Venmo

                VidLii

                Vimeo

                Vine

                VirusTotal

                VK

                Volkswagen

                VSCO

                WatchMeMore

                Weibo

                WhatsApp

                Wire

                Wordfeud

                Xbox

                xHamster

                XING

                XVideos

                Yahoo

                Yandex

                Yappy

                YCombinator

                Yelp

                YouTube

                Zhihu

                Zillow

                ZoneH

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                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                Why tf is PGP, tesseract ocr, and deepl on this list. Deepl is literally just a machine translation service, users don't post onto it. tesseract ocr is a downloadable software for ocr. PGP is encryption.

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                • R [email protected]

                  If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                  DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

                  D This user is from outside of this forum
                  D This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  They do it all to build up a huge web of interconnected data points. Duckduckgo itself they might take as evidence that someone is trying to hide something. Then the government goes to a FISA court and gets permission to have other tech companies hand over all your data. Its not any one site its the picture that can be gleamed from all the data available across all the sites.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

                    D This user is from outside of this forum
                    D This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

                      P This user is from outside of this forum
                      P This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                      • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                        Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                        In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                        Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                        Here's the full list of names:

                        4chan Archives

                        Discord Archives

                        21Buttons

                        500px

                        about.me

                        AllMyLinks

                        AllTrails

                        Amazon

                        Ameba

                        Amino

                        AnimePlanet

                        Apple Music

                        Artists&Clients

                        Asciinema

                        AudioJungle

                        AudiUSA

                        BabyCenter

                        Baidu

                        BeReal

                        Bigo Live

                        Bing

                        Biolink

                        BitChute

                        BlackPlanet

                        Blogger

                        Bluesky

                        Bodybuilding

                        BookCrossing

                        Breaches

                        BuyMeACoffee

                        Cash App

                        CastingCall Club

                        Chaturbate

                        Chess.com

                        Cigar Dojo

                        CityXGuide

                        CloutHub

                        Cocolog

                        Companies House

                        Cozy.tv

                        Cracked

                        Creema

                        Dailymotion

                        Danbooru

                        Dark Web

                        DeepL

                        DeviantArt

                        Disqus

                        DLive

                        Dot.cards

                        Douyin

                        Drum

                        DuckDuckGo

                        Duolingo

                        E621

                        eBay

                        Eporner

                        Etsy

                        Facebook

                        Fansly

                        FastPeopleSearch

                        Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                        FetLife

                        Fiverr

                        Flickr

                        FlightAware

                        Foursquare

                        FriendFinder

                        FurAffinity

                        Gab

                        Gaia Online

                        GameFAQs

                        Gelbooru

                        GeneralMotors

                        Geocaching

                        GeoEstimation

                        Gettr

                        Giphy

                        GitHub

                        Glassdoor

                        GoFundMe

                        Goo

                        Google

                        Goodreads

                        Gravatar

                        Guancha

                        GunBroker

                        Habbo

                        Hackaday

                        Hatena

                        Honda

                        Hubski

                        ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                        ImageShack

                        Imgur

                        IMVU

                        Indeed

                        Instagram

                        Instructables

                        JudyRecords

                        Jugem

                        JustForFans

                        Keybase

                        Kick

                        Kik

                        Last.fm

                        LibraryThing

                        Lichess

                        Likee

                        Line

                        LinkedIn

                        Linktree

                        LiveIn

                        LiveJournal

                        Lobsters

                        Mail.ru

                        Malgari

                        MapMyTracks

                        Marshmallow

                        MarTech

                        Massage Anywhere

                        Medium

                        MeetMe

                        Mercari Jp

                        MeWe

                        Minds

                        Minecraft

                        Mix

                        Mixlr

                        ModDB

                        Mughosts

                        MyFitnessPal

                        Myspace

                        MySubaru

                        Naijapals

                        Nextdoor

                        NissanUSA

                        Odysee

                        OFAC Sanctions List

                        OkCupid

                        OK.ru

                        OnlyFans

                        Pandia

                        Pandora

                        Passes

                        Pastebin

                        Patreon

                        PayPal

                        PCGamer

                        Peloton

                        PGP

                        Pinterest

                        Plurk

                        Poal

                        Popl

                        Pornhub

                        Poshmark

                        Product Hunt

                        ProtonMail

                        PSNProfiles

                        Reblogme

                        Reddit

                        RedGifs

                        Replit

                        ReverbNation

                        Roblox

                        Rule34.xxx

                        Rumble

                        Rutube

                        ScoutWiki

                        Seesaa

                        Seneporno

                        Signal

                        SkipTheGames

                        Skype

                        SlideShare

                        Snapchat

                        Sogou

                        SoundCloud

                        SourceForge

                        Spiceworks

                        Spotify

                        Sprashivai

                        Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                        StellantisEU

                        StellantisUSA

                        Strava

                        Stripchat

                        Substack

                        TechNet

                        Telegram

                        Tellows

                        Tesseract OCR

                        Threads

                        TikTok

                        Tinder

                        TinEye

                        ToyotaUSA

                        Trakt

                        Triller

                        TripAdvisor

                        TrueCaller

                        TruthSocial

                        Tumblr

                        Twilio

                        Twitch

                        Twitter

                        Untappd

                        Venmo

                        VidLii

                        Vimeo

                        Vine

                        VirusTotal

                        VK

                        Volkswagen

                        VSCO

                        WatchMeMore

                        Weibo

                        WhatsApp

                        Wire

                        Wordfeud

                        Xbox

                        xHamster

                        XING

                        XVideos

                        Yahoo

                        Yandex

                        Yappy

                        YCombinator

                        Yelp

                        YouTube

                        Zhihu

                        Zillow

                        ZoneH

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                        #28

                        Vine? Didn’t that close down back in 2016?

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                        • P [email protected]

                          How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          Not really necessary people make DNS requests which are pretty easy to track if you know what URL was requested that will be the exact product. This can all be done by man in the middle and monitoring network traffic. But even that is sort of unnecessary. They could very possibly have contracts with ISPs or other network operators some of that is likely just secret and they dont disclose it.

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