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  • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

    Aww man seriously DuckDuckGo is on the list? Fuckin' traitors...

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    #16

    Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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    • tuxenthusiast@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

      I mean Sweden asked for a backdoor recently, maybe they're jealous of the US lol

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      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      Lol yeah I heard about that. Apparently they also preemptively made post-quantum encryption illegal? Yeah, I don't like the US, but I'm not sure I'd wanna live in Sweden, that's for sure.

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      • D [email protected]

        Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        Oof, yeah I forgot about the metadata... What you say is certainly true and is worrisome.

        Plus, most people who use email don't use encrypted email so even if they can't get a transcript of a conversation from my account, they can certainly get everything from the other account if they also scrape that platform.

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          Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          Oh shit.

          Well that clears things up. Thanks for the explanation. thumbs-up

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          • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

            In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

            Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

            Here's the full list of names:

            4chan Archives

            Discord Archives

            21Buttons

            500px

            about.me

            AllMyLinks

            AllTrails

            Amazon

            Ameba

            Amino

            AnimePlanet

            Apple Music

            Artists&Clients

            Asciinema

            AudioJungle

            AudiUSA

            BabyCenter

            Baidu

            BeReal

            Bigo Live

            Bing

            Biolink

            BitChute

            BlackPlanet

            Blogger

            Bluesky

            Bodybuilding

            BookCrossing

            Breaches

            BuyMeACoffee

            Cash App

            CastingCall Club

            Chaturbate

            Chess.com

            Cigar Dojo

            CityXGuide

            CloutHub

            Cocolog

            Companies House

            Cozy.tv

            Cracked

            Creema

            Dailymotion

            Danbooru

            Dark Web

            DeepL

            DeviantArt

            Disqus

            DLive

            Dot.cards

            Douyin

            Drum

            DuckDuckGo

            Duolingo

            E621

            eBay

            Eporner

            Etsy

            Facebook

            Fansly

            FastPeopleSearch

            Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

            FetLife

            Fiverr

            Flickr

            FlightAware

            Foursquare

            FriendFinder

            FurAffinity

            Gab

            Gaia Online

            GameFAQs

            Gelbooru

            GeneralMotors

            Geocaching

            GeoEstimation

            Gettr

            Giphy

            GitHub

            Glassdoor

            GoFundMe

            Goo

            Google

            Goodreads

            Gravatar

            Guancha

            GunBroker

            Habbo

            Hackaday

            Hatena

            Honda

            Hubski

            ILoveGrowingMarijuana

            ImageShack

            Imgur

            IMVU

            Indeed

            Instagram

            Instructables

            JudyRecords

            Jugem

            JustForFans

            Keybase

            Kick

            Kik

            Last.fm

            LibraryThing

            Lichess

            Likee

            Line

            LinkedIn

            Linktree

            LiveIn

            LiveJournal

            Lobsters

            Mail.ru

            Malgari

            MapMyTracks

            Marshmallow

            MarTech

            Massage Anywhere

            Medium

            MeetMe

            Mercari Jp

            MeWe

            Minds

            Minecraft

            Mix

            Mixlr

            ModDB

            Mughosts

            MyFitnessPal

            Myspace

            MySubaru

            Naijapals

            Nextdoor

            NissanUSA

            Odysee

            OFAC Sanctions List

            OkCupid

            OK.ru

            OnlyFans

            Pandia

            Pandora

            Passes

            Pastebin

            Patreon

            PayPal

            PCGamer

            Peloton

            PGP

            Pinterest

            Plurk

            Poal

            Popl

            Pornhub

            Poshmark

            Product Hunt

            ProtonMail

            PSNProfiles

            Reblogme

            Reddit

            RedGifs

            Replit

            ReverbNation

            Roblox

            Rule34.xxx

            Rumble

            Rutube

            ScoutWiki

            Seesaa

            Seneporno

            Signal

            SkipTheGames

            Skype

            SlideShare

            Snapchat

            Sogou

            SoundCloud

            SourceForge

            Spiceworks

            Spotify

            Sprashivai

            Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

            StellantisEU

            StellantisUSA

            Strava

            Stripchat

            Substack

            TechNet

            Telegram

            Tellows

            Tesseract OCR

            Threads

            TikTok

            Tinder

            TinEye

            ToyotaUSA

            Trakt

            Triller

            TripAdvisor

            TrueCaller

            TruthSocial

            Tumblr

            Twilio

            Twitch

            Twitter

            Untappd

            Venmo

            VidLii

            Vimeo

            Vine

            VirusTotal

            VK

            Volkswagen

            VSCO

            WatchMeMore

            Weibo

            WhatsApp

            Wire

            Wordfeud

            Xbox

            xHamster

            XING

            XVideos

            Yahoo

            Yandex

            Yappy

            YCombinator

            Yelp

            YouTube

            Zhihu

            Zillow

            ZoneH

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            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            Reddit is there.

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            • D [email protected]

              Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

              DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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              • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                Reddit is there.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                Thank you sir - I've posted an edit with a credit to your astute eye.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                  • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                    In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                    Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                    Here's the full list of names:

                    4chan Archives

                    Discord Archives

                    21Buttons

                    500px

                    about.me

                    AllMyLinks

                    AllTrails

                    Amazon

                    Ameba

                    Amino

                    AnimePlanet

                    Apple Music

                    Artists&Clients

                    Asciinema

                    AudioJungle

                    AudiUSA

                    BabyCenter

                    Baidu

                    BeReal

                    Bigo Live

                    Bing

                    Biolink

                    BitChute

                    BlackPlanet

                    Blogger

                    Bluesky

                    Bodybuilding

                    BookCrossing

                    Breaches

                    BuyMeACoffee

                    Cash App

                    CastingCall Club

                    Chaturbate

                    Chess.com

                    Cigar Dojo

                    CityXGuide

                    CloutHub

                    Cocolog

                    Companies House

                    Cozy.tv

                    Cracked

                    Creema

                    Dailymotion

                    Danbooru

                    Dark Web

                    DeepL

                    DeviantArt

                    Disqus

                    DLive

                    Dot.cards

                    Douyin

                    Drum

                    DuckDuckGo

                    Duolingo

                    E621

                    eBay

                    Eporner

                    Etsy

                    Facebook

                    Fansly

                    FastPeopleSearch

                    Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                    FetLife

                    Fiverr

                    Flickr

                    FlightAware

                    Foursquare

                    FriendFinder

                    FurAffinity

                    Gab

                    Gaia Online

                    GameFAQs

                    Gelbooru

                    GeneralMotors

                    Geocaching

                    GeoEstimation

                    Gettr

                    Giphy

                    GitHub

                    Glassdoor

                    GoFundMe

                    Goo

                    Google

                    Goodreads

                    Gravatar

                    Guancha

                    GunBroker

                    Habbo

                    Hackaday

                    Hatena

                    Honda

                    Hubski

                    ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                    ImageShack

                    Imgur

                    IMVU

                    Indeed

                    Instagram

                    Instructables

                    JudyRecords

                    Jugem

                    JustForFans

                    Keybase

                    Kick

                    Kik

                    Last.fm

                    LibraryThing

                    Lichess

                    Likee

                    Line

                    LinkedIn

                    Linktree

                    LiveIn

                    LiveJournal

                    Lobsters

                    Mail.ru

                    Malgari

                    MapMyTracks

                    Marshmallow

                    MarTech

                    Massage Anywhere

                    Medium

                    MeetMe

                    Mercari Jp

                    MeWe

                    Minds

                    Minecraft

                    Mix

                    Mixlr

                    ModDB

                    Mughosts

                    MyFitnessPal

                    Myspace

                    MySubaru

                    Naijapals

                    Nextdoor

                    NissanUSA

                    Odysee

                    OFAC Sanctions List

                    OkCupid

                    OK.ru

                    OnlyFans

                    Pandia

                    Pandora

                    Passes

                    Pastebin

                    Patreon

                    PayPal

                    PCGamer

                    Peloton

                    PGP

                    Pinterest

                    Plurk

                    Poal

                    Popl

                    Pornhub

                    Poshmark

                    Product Hunt

                    ProtonMail

                    PSNProfiles

                    Reblogme

                    Reddit

                    RedGifs

                    Replit

                    ReverbNation

                    Roblox

                    Rule34.xxx

                    Rumble

                    Rutube

                    ScoutWiki

                    Seesaa

                    Seneporno

                    Signal

                    SkipTheGames

                    Skype

                    SlideShare

                    Snapchat

                    Sogou

                    SoundCloud

                    SourceForge

                    Spiceworks

                    Spotify

                    Sprashivai

                    Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                    StellantisEU

                    StellantisUSA

                    Strava

                    Stripchat

                    Substack

                    TechNet

                    Telegram

                    Tellows

                    Tesseract OCR

                    Threads

                    TikTok

                    Tinder

                    TinEye

                    ToyotaUSA

                    Trakt

                    Triller

                    TripAdvisor

                    TrueCaller

                    TruthSocial

                    Tumblr

                    Twilio

                    Twitch

                    Twitter

                    Untappd

                    Venmo

                    VidLii

                    Vimeo

                    Vine

                    VirusTotal

                    VK

                    Volkswagen

                    VSCO

                    WatchMeMore

                    Weibo

                    WhatsApp

                    Wire

                    Wordfeud

                    Xbox

                    xHamster

                    XING

                    XVideos

                    Yahoo

                    Yandex

                    Yappy

                    YCombinator

                    Yelp

                    YouTube

                    Zhihu

                    Zillow

                    ZoneH

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    Why tf is PGP, tesseract ocr, and deepl on this list. Deepl is literally just a machine translation service, users don't post onto it. tesseract ocr is a downloadable software for ocr. PGP is encryption.

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                    • R [email protected]

                      If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                      DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      They do it all to build up a huge web of interconnected data points. Duckduckgo itself they might take as evidence that someone is trying to hide something. Then the government goes to a FISA court and gets permission to have other tech companies hand over all your data. Its not any one site its the picture that can be gleamed from all the data available across all the sites.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                          #27

                          How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                          • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                            In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                            Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                            Here's the full list of names:

                            4chan Archives

                            Discord Archives

                            21Buttons

                            500px

                            about.me

                            AllMyLinks

                            AllTrails

                            Amazon

                            Ameba

                            Amino

                            AnimePlanet

                            Apple Music

                            Artists&Clients

                            Asciinema

                            AudioJungle

                            AudiUSA

                            BabyCenter

                            Baidu

                            BeReal

                            Bigo Live

                            Bing

                            Biolink

                            BitChute

                            BlackPlanet

                            Blogger

                            Bluesky

                            Bodybuilding

                            BookCrossing

                            Breaches

                            BuyMeACoffee

                            Cash App

                            CastingCall Club

                            Chaturbate

                            Chess.com

                            Cigar Dojo

                            CityXGuide

                            CloutHub

                            Cocolog

                            Companies House

                            Cozy.tv

                            Cracked

                            Creema

                            Dailymotion

                            Danbooru

                            Dark Web

                            DeepL

                            DeviantArt

                            Disqus

                            DLive

                            Dot.cards

                            Douyin

                            Drum

                            DuckDuckGo

                            Duolingo

                            E621

                            eBay

                            Eporner

                            Etsy

                            Facebook

                            Fansly

                            FastPeopleSearch

                            Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                            FetLife

                            Fiverr

                            Flickr

                            FlightAware

                            Foursquare

                            FriendFinder

                            FurAffinity

                            Gab

                            Gaia Online

                            GameFAQs

                            Gelbooru

                            GeneralMotors

                            Geocaching

                            GeoEstimation

                            Gettr

                            Giphy

                            GitHub

                            Glassdoor

                            GoFundMe

                            Goo

                            Google

                            Goodreads

                            Gravatar

                            Guancha

                            GunBroker

                            Habbo

                            Hackaday

                            Hatena

                            Honda

                            Hubski

                            ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                            ImageShack

                            Imgur

                            IMVU

                            Indeed

                            Instagram

                            Instructables

                            JudyRecords

                            Jugem

                            JustForFans

                            Keybase

                            Kick

                            Kik

                            Last.fm

                            LibraryThing

                            Lichess

                            Likee

                            Line

                            LinkedIn

                            Linktree

                            LiveIn

                            LiveJournal

                            Lobsters

                            Mail.ru

                            Malgari

                            MapMyTracks

                            Marshmallow

                            MarTech

                            Massage Anywhere

                            Medium

                            MeetMe

                            Mercari Jp

                            MeWe

                            Minds

                            Minecraft

                            Mix

                            Mixlr

                            ModDB

                            Mughosts

                            MyFitnessPal

                            Myspace

                            MySubaru

                            Naijapals

                            Nextdoor

                            NissanUSA

                            Odysee

                            OFAC Sanctions List

                            OkCupid

                            OK.ru

                            OnlyFans

                            Pandia

                            Pandora

                            Passes

                            Pastebin

                            Patreon

                            PayPal

                            PCGamer

                            Peloton

                            PGP

                            Pinterest

                            Plurk

                            Poal

                            Popl

                            Pornhub

                            Poshmark

                            Product Hunt

                            ProtonMail

                            PSNProfiles

                            Reblogme

                            Reddit

                            RedGifs

                            Replit

                            ReverbNation

                            Roblox

                            Rule34.xxx

                            Rumble

                            Rutube

                            ScoutWiki

                            Seesaa

                            Seneporno

                            Signal

                            SkipTheGames

                            Skype

                            SlideShare

                            Snapchat

                            Sogou

                            SoundCloud

                            SourceForge

                            Spiceworks

                            Spotify

                            Sprashivai

                            Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                            StellantisEU

                            StellantisUSA

                            Strava

                            Stripchat

                            Substack

                            TechNet

                            Telegram

                            Tellows

                            Tesseract OCR

                            Threads

                            TikTok

                            Tinder

                            TinEye

                            ToyotaUSA

                            Trakt

                            Triller

                            TripAdvisor

                            TrueCaller

                            TruthSocial

                            Tumblr

                            Twilio

                            Twitch

                            Twitter

                            Untappd

                            Venmo

                            VidLii

                            Vimeo

                            Vine

                            VirusTotal

                            VK

                            Volkswagen

                            VSCO

                            WatchMeMore

                            Weibo

                            WhatsApp

                            Wire

                            Wordfeud

                            Xbox

                            xHamster

                            XING

                            XVideos

                            Yahoo

                            Yandex

                            Yappy

                            YCombinator

                            Yelp

                            YouTube

                            Zhihu

                            Zillow

                            ZoneH

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                            Vine? Didn’t that close down back in 2016?

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                              How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                              Not really necessary people make DNS requests which are pretty easy to track if you know what URL was requested that will be the exact product. This can all be done by man in the middle and monitoring network traffic. But even that is sort of unnecessary. They could very possibly have contracts with ISPs or other network operators some of that is likely just secret and they dont disclose it.

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