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  • L [email protected]

    It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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    that's why c++ gets bullied

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    • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

      that's why c++ gets bullied

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      That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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      • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

        a logical skeuomorphism, how eccentric

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        Haha! I had the same thought.

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        • L [email protected]

          It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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          Yes. Sometimes you're limited by the hardware you're controlling. This code is a bit hard to justify with that excuse though. Normally your code would do a read from hardware to see if the value decremented and then repeat the write. (Possibly a sleep/yield in there if required.)

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          • L [email protected]

            That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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            yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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              implemented

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                If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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                • myturtleswimsupsidedown@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                  implemented

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                  So one understood the assignment.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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                    But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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                    • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                      yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                      It is a method!

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                      • S [email protected]

                        It is a method!

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                        thanks

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                          But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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                          As a shotgun. That's why people don't shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun.

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                            That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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                            Until the next person with a slightly different mental way of defining things comes along. Or just a future version of you.

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                            • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                              yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                              You wouldn't second guess the decrement operation if it's a basic type like int. If I opt into using complex types, then I am responsible to understand/establish/forbid the syntactic sugar for it. That's the mindset I often use to program C++

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                              • L [email protected]

                                It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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                                Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                                And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                                • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                  yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                                  That's just life of a C++ programmer: you second guess everything, and there are still optimization you haven't tried, and pitfalls you haven't got into

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                                    If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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                                    for others - https://godbolt.org/z/osaKrxsPx

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                                      Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                                        And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                                        Sincerely agree. Explicit is better then implicit, that’s a general engineering axiom.

                                        Instead of overloading and making the next maintainer hunt for overloads, a clearly named function that does the critical steps would make the code immensely more maintainable. C++ is C gone wild.

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                                          ...would JIT optimizations even help here?

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