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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

    that's why c++ gets bullied

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    That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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    • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

      a logical skeuomorphism, how eccentric

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      Haha! I had the same thought.

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        It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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        Yes. Sometimes you're limited by the hardware you're controlling. This code is a bit hard to justify with that excuse though. Normally your code would do a read from hardware to see if the value decremented and then repeat the write. (Possibly a sleep/yield in there if required.)

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          That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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          yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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            implemented

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              If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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              • myturtleswimsupsidedown@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                implemented

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                So one understood the assignment.

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                • L [email protected]

                  That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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                  But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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                  • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                    yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                    It is a method!

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                      It is a method!

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                      thanks

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                        But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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                        As a shotgun. That's why people don't shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun.

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                          That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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                          Until the next person with a slightly different mental way of defining things comes along. Or just a future version of you.

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                          • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                            yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                            You wouldn't second guess the decrement operation if it's a basic type like int. If I opt into using complex types, then I am responsible to understand/establish/forbid the syntactic sugar for it. That's the mindset I often use to program C++

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                              It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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                              Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                              And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                              • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                                That's just life of a C++ programmer: you second guess everything, and there are still optimization you haven't tried, and pitfalls you haven't got into

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                                  If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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                                  for others - https://godbolt.org/z/osaKrxsPx

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                                    Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                                      Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                                      And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                                      Sincerely agree. Explicit is better then implicit, that’s a general engineering axiom.

                                      Instead of overloading and making the next maintainer hunt for overloads, a clearly named function that does the critical steps would make the code immensely more maintainable. C++ is C gone wild.

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                                        Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                                        ...would JIT optimizations even help here?

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                                          As a shotgun. That's why people don't shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun.

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                                          Actually

                                          https://neshobademocrat.com/stories/man-accidentally-shoots-his-foot-with-shotgun,121925

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