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  • L [email protected]

    That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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    yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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      implemented

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        If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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        • myturtleswimsupsidedown@fedia.ioM [email protected]

          implemented

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          So one understood the assignment.

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          • L [email protected]

            That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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            But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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            • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

              yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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              It is a method!

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              • S [email protected]

                It is a method!

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                thanks

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                • M [email protected]

                  But when you do shoot yourself in the foot, it blows your whole leg off.

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                  As a shotgun. That's why people don't shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    That is why it is loved: it allows you to use ideas/objects the same way as you do as an engineer. Super cool.

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                    Until the next person with a slightly different mental way of defining things comes along. Or just a future version of you.

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                    • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                      yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                      You wouldn't second guess the decrement operation if it's a basic type like int. If I opt into using complex types, then I am responsible to understand/establish/forbid the syntactic sugar for it. That's the mindset I often use to program C++

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                      • L [email protected]

                        It might be an absolutely adequate method. Imagine that is C++. operator-- is overloaded and controls some machinery. You can't just command capacity = currSize. Process is important.

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                        Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                        And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                        • eager_eagle@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                          yes, but in this particular case I wouldn't want to second guess my decrement operation just happens to also be calling the white house or whatnot. Just make a method.

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                          That's just life of a C++ programmer: you second guess everything, and there are still optimization you haven't tried, and pitfalls you haven't got into

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                            If those are normal integers, the compiler optimizes that to a simple compare and branch/cmov.

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                            for others - https://godbolt.org/z/osaKrxsPx

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                              Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Yeah, just to say it more clearly: that kind of thing is why lots of people out there insist that operator overloading is a bad idea.

                                And yeah, it's a C++ thing that mostly doesn't happen in other languages.

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                                Sincerely agree. Explicit is better then implicit, that’s a general engineering axiom.

                                Instead of overloading and making the next maintainer hunt for overloads, a clearly named function that does the critical steps would make the code immensely more maintainable. C++ is C gone wild.

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                                  Thank goodness for the JIT and compiler optimizations.

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                                  ...would JIT optimizations even help here?

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    As a shotgun. That's why people don't shoot themselves in the foot with a shotgun.

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                                    Actually

                                    https://neshobademocrat.com/stories/man-accidentally-shoots-his-foot-with-shotgun,121925

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