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  • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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    Peak programming

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]
      print("odd" if num % 2 else "even")
      

      That's the native python version, for those curious

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      That's way too non-convoluted enough

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      • capuccino@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        I love something = condition and result1 or result2 in lua

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        Python does that, too.

        https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not

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          That's way too non-convoluted enough

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          Python is kinda like that in general, unless you try to make it read like ass

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          • maven@lemmy.zipM [email protected]
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            Yeah... I played that "serial killer or programming language inventor" game.

            The only one I was completely in disagreement with was the inventor of Python. He's definitely a mass-murderer

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              num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

              Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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              • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]

                Python is kinda like that in general, unless you try to make it read like ass

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                Clearly an inferior language. /s

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                • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                  num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                  Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                  #13

                  In JS 0 is the same as False

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                  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                    num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                    Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                    All of those languages will convert numbers into booleans, 0 is false, all other numbers are true.

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                    • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                      num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                      Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                      The joys of dynamic typing.

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                      • moomoomoo309@programming.devM [email protected]

                        All of those languages will convert numbers into booleans, 0 is false, all other numbers are true.

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                        Ah, that makes sense.

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                        • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                          num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                          Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                          0 is false in C, Python, and JS. It should work

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                          • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                            num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                            Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                            You'd be surprised.

                            But seriously, numbers can be used as booleans in an impressive number of languages. Including machine code for almost every machine out there.

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                            • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]
                              print("odd" if num % 2 else "even")
                              

                              That's the native python version, for those curious

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                              Why is the return first?

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                              • moomoomoo309@programming.devM [email protected]

                                All of those languages will convert numbers into booleans, 0 is false, all other numbers are true.

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                                That makes sense. However, num % 2 equaling 0 would mean it's even, and not "odd" like the ternary operator is outputting, yeah?

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                                • moomoomoo309@programming.devM [email protected]

                                  All of those languages will convert numbers into booleans, 0 is false, all other numbers are true.

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                                  Ah that makes sense.

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                                  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devK [email protected]

                                    num % 2 isn't a boolean result in any of these languages, so I feel like it would always output "odd"

                                    Edit: 0 is false, everything else is true.

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                                    In JS at least, there's a concept of truthiness and falsiness. 0, undefined, null, and a few other non-boolean values are treated as false if used in conditionals and logical operations, while every other value is treated as true. I'm pretty sure python has something similar.

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                                      Why is the return first?

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                                      I think the idea is it reads more naturally, so you can read it like this return A if statement is true else return B

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                                      • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.orgE [email protected]
                                        print("odd" if num % 2 else "even")
                                        

                                        That's the native python version, for those curious

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                                        The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                                          Why is the return first?

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                                          Edit... I reread your comment and realized that python does it differently and that everything I typed was irrelevant... I'm still gonna leave it if anyone is interested in ternary expressions, but I suppose the answer to your question is, that's just how python does it.

                                          That's how ternary operators are designed to work. In essence, if you're looking to do a single line if/then, you can directly assign a variable from the result of a ternary expression.

                                          As an example, I was scripting something earlier where there may or may not be a value returned from a function, but I still had to do something with that return value later. For this thing, I was using JavaScript.

                                          I ended up with:

                                          return platform == "name"  ? "Option 1" : "Option 2"
                                          

                                          If I were to write that out in a typical if/then it would be:

                                          if (platform == "name") {
                                              return "option 1"
                                          } else {
                                              return "option 2"
                                          }
                                          
                                          

                                          A ternary starts with a boolean expression, then the if true value, else the false value. That's returned to either a variable or if in a function like my example, to the object calling the function. It's just a way to write less code that in many cases is easier to read.

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