Dear slim
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Why not? Based on Iran’s history, I think it’s highly improbably they would use nukes offensively. They have every reason to want to develop a nuke. It’s likely that they even have the capacity to make one. Even then, they’ve refused to. All evidence points to the fact that they genuinely want peace. All of their responses to either American or Israeli attacks have been very limited. Even their allies all seem primarily interested in self defense.
While the government may not be to your liking, having nukes is not going to prevent organic resistance. In fact, having a real deterrent against foreign military intervention ensures that the people of Iran can focus on fighting for their personal freedoms and not their very lives. In the past there have been real protest movements in favor of social reform. Now though? Iranians are demonstrating in defiance of Israel and in support of the Iranian state.
To be clear, I’m not exactly a fan of nuclear proliferation. However, in a world where the only country to ever use nukes as a weapon and their genocidal proxy are aiming to obliterate your country, having a nuclear deterrent makes everyone safer.
As you’ve said, they’ve had a track record of power competition and want their sphere of influence in the region, but repeatedly have shown refrain towards other nations during times of escalation.
Iran had (/has?) a chemical weapons program after the Iran-Iraq war, and guess what? There never was a VX nerve gas attack on Tel Aviv. I’m not remotely concerned with them using a nuke offensively, because they’ve exercised restraint repeatedly when they did have other weapons of mass destruction. And they’ve proven they have the capability to get past Israel and allied missile defense, so it’s not a capability gap either
All this hand wringing over “they cannot have a bomb under any circumstances” is unspoken MAD calculus - because then Israel would be on a level playing field as far as ultimate escalation and regime security, and that’d be intolerable for Bibi/the US’s/Gulf State plans for the region.
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Neither is worse, they both suck just as bad.
Okay hut what if one of the civilians is a white jewish man, and the other is a persian muslim woman? Killing the jewish guy is worse, right?
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They absolutely should not. One sided enforcement is worse than no enforcement for perception of justice and stabilizing geopolitical norms.
Wtf? I said both sides should be investigated. Iran and Israel. I didnt say anything about one sided investigation.
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Well that's because I'm an actual person with actual intellectual thought and not an AI or a braindead liberal posting meme comments. It's interesting that the person above my comment, posted a meme comment, on a complaint about meme comments. Again proving my point. Don't regurgitate bullshit and interact with people on a real level and we have a chance at clawing this country back. Sorry to say but we need angry classic Republicans to join our side if we're to defeat maga. We need to bring them to our side to defeat fascism and it's fucking infuriating that people think snarky copypasta is the way to do it.
So many people consider themselves intellectually above the MAGAts by making fun of their posting trends, and then they celebrate copypasta? It's the same ignorant, weak and ineffectual shit that the Rs do with their 3 word sentences with all caps. It's less than nothing. Use new language.
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Wtf? I said both sides should be investigated. Iran and Israel. I didnt say anything about one sided investigation.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Zionists are and always have been above the law, and therefore protecting them with it before the century backlog of prosecutions and executions is finished-not started, finished- would just be bullshit.
The trials of iranian criminals would conclude quickly with evidence, and the courts would fuck off for whichever season and forget to come back before prosecuting any zionist terrorists, ot prosecute one zionist for each iranian, when there are thousands of zionist war criminals for every iranian.
There can be no justice while zionist terrorists roam free. Live an outlaw, die an outlaw.
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Lol as of Israel deserves the respect of other people following laws for it. Fuck Israel.
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Are 2000 pounder JDAM dropped on gazan civilian buildings more moral than a cluster bomb?
It depends on who sold it to them. If it was one president, centrists love it. If it's another president, they still love it but have to pretend they don't so they can blame people to their left.
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As true as this is, I will always down vote copypasta.
What's that? Copypasta goes here?
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Its been, what, 70 years since the last time the protocol larpers dropped a nuke in anger, with thousands of warheads?
You think the Iranian government would wait that long if they had a handful of em?
Yeah, they're less rational. They're less trustworthy. And given how untrustworthy even the best governments are, that's saying something
Iran has been more rational and restrained than Israel and the US. I don't know what the fuck you're on about.
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MAD only works when your opponent is afraid of dying. When your motivation is the promise of an afterlife, like all the Abrahamic religions give, it's a more precarious situation.
So the US, Israel AND Iran should not have nukes. I know two of the three already do have them, but I'm not sure that the last one getting nukes will actually make things more stable. Especially when the first two are being run by geriatrics.
I mean, we aren't fucking with North Korea, Russia, or China are we? They've all been demonized about as much as Iran. Why not them?
(It's nukes, partly Israel being a death cult right now but mostly the nukes.)
