And if wishes were fishes there would be no room in the ocean for water.

You aren't wrong, but "could" is doing some heavy lifting.

Instead of telling me how I feel, name a single "good thing" that has resulted.

Kirk's organization is stronger, his ideas are martyred, his followers are more radicalized. You tell me I am afraid, but I am observing reality; historical and present.

Show me the improvement, because all I see is fascists getting exactly what they want.

I thought there were no good Nazis, but he just proved me wrong.

lol no. You're just fucking stupid if you think self defense is equivalent to wanting to punch strangers...

Nazism is a form of fascism, identifying ethnic Germans as part of what the Nazis regarded as a Nordic Aryan master race.

Lots of ethnic Germanic folks in Israel, to be sure. Yes, this is sarcasm.

It's funny to compare the definitions of nazism in English versus Swedish though. It would appear that English speaking really want to shift what nazi means, rather than have zionism be its own term with similar meaning.

Direct translation from the Swedish version

Nazism is part of fascist ideologi. It made the claim that certain races of human had greater value than others. The "Aryan race" and the Germanic peoples were seen as the highest in the racial hierarchy. The "enemy race" were the so-called untermenschen (subhumans), who were often called "the masses from the East", which mainly included Jews, Slavs, Poles and Roma, but also the disabled and homosexuals. [

It would be like calling the Japanese during world war 2 nazis. It's just silly.

We have a MAGA dictatorship with a corrupt government being led by a literal sex offender, felon, and pedophile. This guy getting shot wasn't murder, it was a heroic attack made in self defense of our nation.

My dad was team horse de-wormer back in covid. Don't talk to him much.

Mom now says the he was a christian and he did everything right.

Guess sometimes parents can suck too

It would appear that English speaking really want to shift what nazi means, rather than have zionism be its own term with similar meaning.

It would appear that you really want to shift the conversation to the exact definition of the word "Nazi", rather than have people talk about facists and the problems there of.

Here’s the frustration and why this should not be celebrated:

Charlie Kirk spent years dehumanizing people, making lives measurably worse, and profiting from hatred. The cosmic irony of him being shot while calling trans people dangerous and minimizing gun violence feels like the universe delivering a punchline he wrote himself. There’s a cathartic release in seeing someone who seemed untouchable suddenly silenced by the very violence he dismissed.

But that catharsis is blinding, vile, and destructive. Every celebration post, every "rest in piss" meme, every "fucked around and found out" joke is already being screenshot and weaponized. The worst people imaginable, those eager to exploit violence, are being handed exactly what they want: supposed proof that “they were right,” justification for crackdowns, and, most dangerously, a martyr whose blood sanctifies every awful thing he stood for.

Celebration may feel like a dunk on fascism, but in reality it accelerates it. It may feel like strength, but it exposes a movement so strategically bankrupt that it mistakes emotional satisfaction for political victory. Kirk alive was one influencer among many; Kirk dead is a rallying cry that will outlive us all.

The rage at what he represented is justified. But celebrating his death guarantees those very ideas will flourish. American democracy is dying, and a gravedigger falling into the hole is no victory when it only deepens the grave.

His ideas needed to be defeated. Instead, they’ve been immortalized.

As are you, right now.

If you can't tell the difference between someone who says "empathy is bad and no one should have it" and someone who says "I don't have empathy for this specific person due to their specific actions" then you should not be trying to argue nuance of definitions with anyone.

The problem with this is that it will be used to increase violence against non-white cis males.

I wonder if we will get a new wave of users as reddit has another ban wave for people laughing at this cunts neck exploding.

You already showed an arrogance and argumentativeness directed at a news source which is far more trustworthy than 99% of those that exist. I'm not arguing with yet another "perfect is the absolute enemy of good" types. You already told me what you believe about PBS and I'm not exerting further mental energy to try and change that. Be wrong, I don't care.

It appears you do not want to know more.

Ohhh! I love Starship Troopers! The book, not so much, but the movie I adore.

Let's dig into your choice to respond with this scene.

That's the moment where Verhoeven shows us 'Federation Victory'! The good guys have won! They've captured the Brain Bug! It's afraid! Humanity wins!

Except what's actually happening is fascists celebrating the torture of a sentient being. One that extracted human minds just as they'll now extract from its mind; each side justifying their horrors by pointing to the other's. All while convincing themselves they're heroes.

The Federation doesn't attempt communication or diplomacy. They literally probe its brain for intel while cheering its terror. The troops cheering 'It's afraid!' aren't the good guys. They're Verhoeven's mirror showing us how righteousness becomes the very tyranny it claims to fight.

NPH's character literally becomes a full SS-uniformed intelligence officer who feeds his best friends into an endless meat grinder. The bugs were defending their home. The Federation manufactured its own eternal enemy. And everyone cheering becomes complicit in forever war.

You've sent me a scene about people so drunk on their enemy's fear that they can't see they've become the monsters.

So either you're agreeing that celebrating suffering makes us indistinguishable from what we oppose, or you've accidentally proven my point by quoting the villains as heroes.

Either way, I couldn't have picked a better metaphor myself.