Anon is rude at work
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Strong disagree. You can absolutely be friendly with coworkers and enjoy working with them without crossing the boundary into your personal life, and this is usually the best for long-term happiness at work. This is especially beneficial whenever people change roles and move to management - it's exceptionally difficult to be a manager to a friend.
I mean, that's called having "work friends". You hang out at work, maybe grab a beer together sometimes, help each other out professionally, but they typically don't enter into the rest of your life. This is extremely common.
Also, it really isn't hard to be a manager to your friends if both people have any level of emotional intelligence. A good manager's job is to support their subordinates, enable their growth, and shelter them from belligerent demands of uninformed clients or higher-ups.
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Friends are people I like, share hobbies and interests with and want to have around me in my life. I picked my friends myself and I'm proud and happy with them.
Coworkers are people I'm stuck in a room with 40 hours a week. Of course you should be polite and friendly, because you're stuck with them. They got foisted on me and dealing with is part of why I get paid.
There's a huge difference between "not a living hell" and "sharing my private life and feelings". If everyone is professional and polite, that's great, but I dislike quite a lot of the people I work with and wouldn't spend 10 minutes with them if I didn't get paid for it.
If you dislike so many people you work with and feel like you are "stuck in a room" at you job, why don't you get a different job, where you like your coworkers and enjoy what you do?
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If you dislike so many people you work with and feel like you are "stuck in a room" at you job, why don't you get a different job, where you like your coworkers and enjoy what you do?
I enjoy the work I do. I'm self employed and I got to hire all my coworkers myself. But "this person should be my close personal friend"is a very poor criterium for hiring someone.
Maybe I could have phrased it better. Most people at work I have a perfectly fine professional relationship with, but I wouldn't be friends with them. It's like neighbors, it's good to be nice with them, but in the Grand scheme of things, we're only spending time together because of physical proximity.
Maybe I have really high standards for friends, but if I didn't work with these people, we wouldn't find eachother remotely friend-material, so why does working together change that?
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>spend 8 hours a day, minimum, sitting next to some guy
>try to make small talk to break up the monotony of wage slavery
>guy doesn't even respond, or gives short answers at best
>damn, he must either not like me or isn't a very sociable person
Exactly. I've made friends with a few of my coworkers and at least one of us shave done fun things on the weekend. Making friends as an adult is hard, especially in a new city. I wanted my coworker to feel welcome.
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"Rude" to the social butterflies at the office.
I feel like they would just not notice anyone like that.
There's always some office drama going on where I work but I never have any idea what any of it's about. No one tries to engage me with it though.
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anon describes everyone at work besides that one guy in sales who tries to start "hawaiian shirt wednesday" and nobody does it
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"Belonging is one of the company's core principles! We're family here!"
I got a work email today that it was decided to have a team building lunch together next week. With instructions to take a personality test and bring the results (they included links).
Sigh.
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I've found few people I'd call friends at jobs. Most people who tried to be "friendly" with me were social climbing shitheads working an angle or emotionally-stunted people trying to recruit me into their petty shop floor dramas.
There are plenty of comments similar to yours and every time I see them I wonder, what industries do these people work in, and how much work experience do they actually have. If you're doing something highly competitive like certain kinds of sales or finance, it makes sense that there's going to be a lot of jerks around you. But in a lot of other jobs, like if you're working at the grocery store or something, it's not like anyone gets any advantage by trying to manipulate you. So I'm really wondering, what are these fields that are just completely full of totally worthless human beings?
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I am sick of this "you have to be sociable at work" bullshit. Leave me the fuck alone.
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There are plenty of comments similar to yours and every time I see them I wonder, what industries do these people work in, and how much work experience do they actually have. If you're doing something highly competitive like certain kinds of sales or finance, it makes sense that there's going to be a lot of jerks around you. But in a lot of other jobs, like if you're working at the grocery store or something, it's not like anyone gets any advantage by trying to manipulate you. So I'm really wondering, what are these fields that are just completely full of totally worthless human beings?
Have you ever worked retail or food? The amount of pettiness and back-biting is equitable to that found in a high-stakes corporate setting.
Professional kitchens are by far the worst jobs I've had in this regard. I've watched a middle aged line lead purposefully fuck up whole tables just to get revenge on the teenage waitress who turned down his advances. I saw a service lead get arrested in the parking lot because he was going to blast a coworker with his .45. Why? Because the asshole coworker tried to sabotage the lead's dinner service by refusing to help him during the rush because he was passed over for the position.
This is not including the loud and public break-ups between coworkers, the fist fights, the time a prep cook tried to work his shift while fucked up on enough oxy to kill a bull moose, or the time these two stoned idiots decided to thaw 80 lbs of chicken wings by putting them through the industrial dishwasher.
