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Which browser do you use and why?

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  • catzoomies@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    Mull Browser != Mullvad Browser. Just to be clear.

    Mull browser is from DivestOS and deprecated. Firefox fork.

    Mullvad Browser is still alive and kicking, developed by Mullvad the VPN provider. Developed in partnership with Tor Browser, also a fork of Firefox.

    swab148@startrek.websiteS This user is from outside of this forum
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    You are absolutely correct, I apologize.

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      Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.

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      Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.

      I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.

      That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.

      Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.

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      • ferk@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

        The thing is that it's not very common for people who use a fork to donate or encourage contributions to Mozilla... most of the people who go for forks do it because they do not trust Mozilla in the first place or don't agree with the decisions they take with the Firefox project.

        So if this became the majority of users, I don't think Mozilla would keep developing Firefox, at least not at the level that they are now. In fact, I think even today Mozilla is not seeing much gain in maintaining Firefox, since they are now starting side projects to make money in other ways.

        If there was a separate foundation that was started by all these forks to keep a foundation where to build on that isn't connected to Mozilla.. then that would be good in my book. But as things stand, those projects depend on Mozilla.

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        I understand completely your point of view but I wouldn't use the stock Firefox as it's not private enough and it has really bad features

        And do you think that most Firefox users donate to Mozilla?

        Using Firefox (even a fork) supports the work of Mozilla, like using chromium browser support the work of google

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          I understand completely your point of view but I wouldn't use the stock Firefox as it's not private enough and it has really bad features

          And do you think that most Firefox users donate to Mozilla?

          Using Firefox (even a fork) supports the work of Mozilla, like using chromium browser support the work of google

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          And do you think that most Firefox users donate to Mozilla?

          No, most don't donate directly, but some do use some of the features that indirectly do provide funds. Like for example, would a search engine be willing to pay Mozilla to have them be a default search engine if it had no users?

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          • ferk@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

            And do you think that most Firefox users donate to Mozilla?

            No, most don't donate directly, but some do use some of the features that indirectly do provide funds. Like for example, would a search engine be willing to pay Mozilla to have them be a default search engine if it had no users?

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            So you recommend people to use the google search engine? 😞

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              Explore the Arkenfox user.js and you'll see all things that can be improved in Firefox

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              I'm good.

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                So you recommend people to use the google search engine? 😞

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                No I did not say that. Do you recommend people to use the default settings?

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                  Using firefox but concerned now

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                  Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh

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                  • ferk@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                    No I did not say that. Do you recommend people to use the default settings?

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                    So it's the same as if your were using a fork nah? The only difference is that mozilla does know that you use a Firefox browser because telemetry is disabled

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                      So it's the same as if your were using a fork nah? The only difference is that mozilla does know that you use a Firefox browser because telemetry is disabled

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                      No, it's not the same. Floorp users are not having that default. I repeat the question that you didn't answer yet:

                      would a search engine be willing to pay Mozilla to have them be a default search engine if it (stock Firefox) had no users?

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                        But who's making these "updates"? Who's doing the actual work of keeping the software secure? Mozilla is.

                        If everybody moves to a free-riding fork, Mozilla goes to 0% and there will be no browser let alone updates.

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                        This needs to be higher up. We need firefox as an alternative to a chrome engine monopoly. ToS and telemetry are miniscule issues compared to what we are up against

                        Firefox is literally the last thing standing between google controlling the entire browser landscape and having control over all web standards (as if they dont already have too much influence)

                        People ditching firefox over tos, telemetry, AI, CEO pay, etc. are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Do i wish mozilla would stop doing stupid shit? Of course. But the alternative is far worse. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good. Mozilla will never be as ideologically pure as we want them to be, but that's OK (for now)

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                          Brave, FOSS. Because it's the best one I have found for my use case.

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                          I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.

                          Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?

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                            Using firefox but concerned now

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                            I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features

                            I appreciate its privacy-focused approach

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                            • swab148@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                              You are absolutely correct, I apologize.

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                              No prob at all dude! I just wanted to add the additional context in case some other persons stumbled upon these comments, were confused, and so they can get some more information on different browser options out there. Candidly, I only learned about Mull vs Mullvad Browser this week when I was researching what non-chromium browser to switch to next.

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                                IMO, if I'm going to jump from Chrome it might as well be for libre/OSS. No reason to just from proprietary to proprietary.

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                                I agree, though there are plenty of situations where you must have a chromium based browser. If it must be a daily driver, Arc is probably better than ungoogled-chromium.

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                                  Using firefox but concerned now

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                                  I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC

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                                  • confuser@lemmy.zipC [email protected]

                                    I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.

                                    Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?

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                                    It's chromium, thus evil, according to the narrow minded community.

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                                      I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC

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                                      great point

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                                        Using firefox but concerned now

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                                        Zen Browser
                                        I love it 🙂

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                                        • confuser@lemmy.zipC [email protected]

                                          I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.

                                          Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?

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                                          It sucks ass, it's just chrome plus some crypto bullshit.

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