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      This is a slippery slope to baptismal logic gates

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        Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

        You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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          Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

          You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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          Per the actual wiki, some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once. Which seems like what the nullification in the baptize function is supposed to capture.

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            That honestly seems like the best way to write conditionalBaptize but I still hate it. Probably because IRL you'd just rewrite baptism instead of retrofitting the function with a clever use of id.

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              Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

              You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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              Could you imagine how op you could become though if baptisms stacked

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                Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

                You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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                The LDS (Mormons) actually do repeat it, in a sense. Their weekly sacrament is a renewal of their baptismal blessings

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                  Which denominations implement idempotent baptisms?

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                    Could you imagine how op you could become though if baptisms stacked

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                    Can you get more clean than clean?

                    Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                      That honestly seems like the best way to write conditionalBaptize but I still hate it. Probably because IRL you'd just rewrite baptism instead of retrofitting the function with a clever use of id.

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                      This is probably an ok use for a GADT. Something like:

                      {-# LANGUAGE DataKinds      #-}
                      {-# LANGUAGE GADTs          #-}
                      {-# LANGUAGE KindSignatures #-}
                      
                      data Bap = Baptized | Unbaptized
                      
                      data Person :: Bap -> * where
                         Baptize :: Person Unbaptized -> Person Baptized
                         NewPerson :: Person Unbaptized
                      
                      conditionalBaptize :: Person a -> Person Baptized
                      conditionalBaptize p =
                          case p of NewPerson -> Baptize p
                                    Baptize _ -> p
                      
                      main = return ()
                      
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                        Sounds like Haskell needs an official Saint.

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                          Baptism is such a weird thing. It's ritualized cleansing turned into one and done

                          You can get baptized as many times as you like, it doesn't stack

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                          Baptism is such a weird thing.

                          I think Haskell is such a weird thing

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                            Can you get more clean than clean?

                            Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                            I think erasing one's body could make you more clean than clean

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                              This is probably an ok use for a GADT. Something like:

                              {-# LANGUAGE DataKinds      #-}
                              {-# LANGUAGE GADTs          #-}
                              {-# LANGUAGE KindSignatures #-}
                              
                              data Bap = Baptized | Unbaptized
                              
                              data Person :: Bap -> * where
                                 Baptize :: Person Unbaptized -> Person Baptized
                                 NewPerson :: Person Unbaptized
                              
                              conditionalBaptize :: Person a -> Person Baptized
                              conditionalBaptize p =
                                  case p of NewPerson -> Baptize p
                                            Baptize _ -> p
                              
                              main = return ()
                              
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                              Thank you for refactoring baptism. How do we push this to production now?

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                                I imagine if baptisms stacked, you could pile on a gazillion of them like ablative armor against incoming sin.

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                                  The LDS (Mormons) actually do repeat it, in a sense. Their weekly sacrament is a renewal of their baptismal blessings

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                                  Probably the reason some other sects call double-dipping a sin, so as to not be like those Mormons.

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                                    Thank you for refactoring baptism. How do we push this to production now?

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                                    Hey hey hey, let's start with a PR, we are not savages here aren't we?

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                                        Per the actual wiki, some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once. Which seems like what the nullification in the baptize function is supposed to capture.

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                                        some denominations seem to think it's a sin or heresy to do someone more than once

                                        Those denominations must have really high divorce rates..

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                                          Can you get more clean than clean?

                                          Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

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                                          Numbers are a human thing. The universe don't care

                                          Doubly so with religion, though 🤷

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