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  • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

    .............If that is the case, I...am concerned. o_o

    tuxenthusiast@sopuli.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    I mean Sweden asked for a backdoor recently, maybe they're jealous of the US lol

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    • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

      ActivityPub DMs are not encrypted between servers

      It is insofar as TLS/SSL/HTTPS encryption is used in transit. That’s what I mean by encrypted in transit.

      i could read anyone’s DMs to users on other servers

      If you’re an administrator for (WordPress) ActivityPub server A, you can see all the DMs coming to and leaving from your server, yes. And they’re not encrypted at rest, so you can read them any time. But how would you see DMs going between server B and server C, when your server isn’t involved in the transaction?

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      #14

      It apparently scrapes everything on the public feed. So when I subscribed to users on Mastodon server A from Wordpress, DMs from Mastodon server A going to Mastodon server B became visible.

      I had a separate account on Mastodon server A to confirm that I couldn't see these DMs as Mastodon user on server A, and that the Wordpress scrape was grabbing messages normally not meant for public view.

      This was using the ActivityPub plugin for Wordpress about six months ago.

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      • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

        Proton

        Signal

        What are they gonna do? Download gibberish?! Lol, it's all end-to-end encrypted with the decryption keys stored locally.

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        #15

        Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

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        • everymuffinisnowencrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

          Aww man seriously DuckDuckGo is on the list? Fuckin' traitors...

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          #16

          Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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          • tuxenthusiast@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

            I mean Sweden asked for a backdoor recently, maybe they're jealous of the US lol

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            #17

            Lol yeah I heard about that. Apparently they also preemptively made post-quantum encryption illegal? Yeah, I don't like the US, but I'm not sure I'd wanna live in Sweden, that's for sure.

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            • D [email protected]

              Probably just whatever the public metadata is.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              Oof, yeah I forgot about the metadata... What you say is certainly true and is worrisome.

              Plus, most people who use email don't use encrypted email so even if they can't get a transcript of a conversation from my account, they can certainly get everything from the other account if they also scrape that platform.

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              • D [email protected]

                Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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                #19

                Oh shit.

                Well that clears things up. Thanks for the explanation. thumbs-up

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                • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                  Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                  In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                  Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                  Here's the full list of names:

                  4chan Archives

                  Discord Archives

                  21Buttons

                  500px

                  about.me

                  AllMyLinks

                  AllTrails

                  Amazon

                  Ameba

                  Amino

                  AnimePlanet

                  Apple Music

                  Artists&Clients

                  Asciinema

                  AudioJungle

                  AudiUSA

                  BabyCenter

                  Baidu

                  BeReal

                  Bigo Live

                  Bing

                  Biolink

                  BitChute

                  BlackPlanet

                  Blogger

                  Bluesky

                  Bodybuilding

                  BookCrossing

                  Breaches

                  BuyMeACoffee

                  Cash App

                  CastingCall Club

                  Chaturbate

                  Chess.com

                  Cigar Dojo

                  CityXGuide

                  CloutHub

                  Cocolog

                  Companies House

                  Cozy.tv

                  Cracked

                  Creema

                  Dailymotion

                  Danbooru

                  Dark Web

                  DeepL

                  DeviantArt

                  Disqus

                  DLive

                  Dot.cards

                  Douyin

                  Drum

                  DuckDuckGo

                  Duolingo

                  E621

                  eBay

                  Eporner

                  Etsy

                  Facebook

                  Fansly

                  FastPeopleSearch

                  Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                  FetLife

                  Fiverr

                  Flickr

                  FlightAware

                  Foursquare

                  FriendFinder

                  FurAffinity

                  Gab

                  Gaia Online

                  GameFAQs

                  Gelbooru

                  GeneralMotors

                  Geocaching

                  GeoEstimation

                  Gettr

                  Giphy

                  GitHub

                  Glassdoor

                  GoFundMe

                  Goo

                  Google

                  Goodreads

                  Gravatar

                  Guancha

                  GunBroker

                  Habbo

                  Hackaday

                  Hatena

                  Honda

                  Hubski

                  ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                  ImageShack

                  Imgur

                  IMVU

                  Indeed

                  Instagram

                  Instructables

                  JudyRecords

                  Jugem

                  JustForFans

                  Keybase

                  Kick

                  Kik

                  Last.fm

                  LibraryThing

                  Lichess

                  Likee

                  Line

                  LinkedIn

                  Linktree

                  LiveIn

                  LiveJournal

                  Lobsters

                  Mail.ru

                  Malgari

                  MapMyTracks

                  Marshmallow

                  MarTech

                  Massage Anywhere

                  Medium

                  MeetMe

                  Mercari Jp

                  MeWe

                  Minds

                  Minecraft

                  Mix

                  Mixlr

                  ModDB

                  Mughosts

                  MyFitnessPal

                  Myspace

                  MySubaru

                  Naijapals

                  Nextdoor

                  NissanUSA

                  Odysee

                  OFAC Sanctions List

                  OkCupid

                  OK.ru

                  OnlyFans

                  Pandia

                  Pandora

                  Passes

                  Pastebin

                  Patreon

                  PayPal

                  PCGamer

                  Peloton

                  PGP

                  Pinterest

                  Plurk

                  Poal

                  Popl

                  Pornhub

                  Poshmark

                  Product Hunt

                  ProtonMail

                  PSNProfiles

                  Reblogme

                  Reddit

                  RedGifs

                  Replit

                  ReverbNation

                  Roblox

                  Rule34.xxx

                  Rumble

                  Rutube

                  ScoutWiki

                  Seesaa

                  Seneporno

                  Signal

                  SkipTheGames

                  Skype

                  SlideShare

                  Snapchat

                  Sogou

                  SoundCloud

                  SourceForge

                  Spiceworks

                  Spotify

                  Sprashivai

                  Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                  StellantisEU

                  StellantisUSA

                  Strava

                  Stripchat

                  Substack

                  TechNet

                  Telegram

                  Tellows

                  Tesseract OCR

                  Threads

                  TikTok

                  Tinder

                  TinEye

                  ToyotaUSA

                  Trakt

                  Triller

                  TripAdvisor

                  TrueCaller

                  TruthSocial

                  Tumblr

                  Twilio

                  Twitch

                  Twitter

                  Untappd

                  Venmo

                  VidLii

                  Vimeo

                  Vine

                  VirusTotal

                  VK

                  Volkswagen

                  VSCO

                  WatchMeMore

                  Weibo

                  WhatsApp

                  Wire

                  Wordfeud

                  Xbox

                  xHamster

                  XING

                  XVideos

                  Yahoo

                  Yandex

                  Yappy

                  YCombinator

                  Yelp

                  YouTube

                  Zhihu

                  Zillow

                  ZoneH

                  captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  Reddit is there.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Duckduckgo is not the problem. They are using publicly scrapable information. So for instance if they have fingerprinted your device they see you go to duckduckgo, then they see you access a site about buying guns, it becomes trivial to determine what you searched for. They would not have direct access to what you search on duckduckgo and duckduckgo is not giving them access. They are using various methods to collect data based on habits. You can use literally any service you want and they could do the same thing.

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                    #21

                    If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                    DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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                    • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                      Reddit is there.

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                      #22

                      Thank you sir - I've posted an edit with a credit to your astute eye.

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                        #23

                        What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                        • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                          In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                          Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                          Here's the full list of names:

                          4chan Archives

                          Discord Archives

                          21Buttons

                          500px

                          about.me

                          AllMyLinks

                          AllTrails

                          Amazon

                          Ameba

                          Amino

                          AnimePlanet

                          Apple Music

                          Artists&Clients

                          Asciinema

                          AudioJungle

                          AudiUSA

                          BabyCenter

                          Baidu

                          BeReal

                          Bigo Live

                          Bing

                          Biolink

                          BitChute

                          BlackPlanet

                          Blogger

                          Bluesky

                          Bodybuilding

                          BookCrossing

                          Breaches

                          BuyMeACoffee

                          Cash App

                          CastingCall Club

                          Chaturbate

                          Chess.com

                          Cigar Dojo

                          CityXGuide

                          CloutHub

                          Cocolog

                          Companies House

                          Cozy.tv

                          Cracked

                          Creema

                          Dailymotion

                          Danbooru

                          Dark Web

                          DeepL

                          DeviantArt

                          Disqus

                          DLive

                          Dot.cards

                          Douyin

                          Drum

                          DuckDuckGo

                          Duolingo

                          E621

                          eBay

                          Eporner

                          Etsy

                          Facebook

                          Fansly

                          FastPeopleSearch

                          Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                          FetLife

                          Fiverr

                          Flickr

                          FlightAware

                          Foursquare

                          FriendFinder

                          FurAffinity

                          Gab

                          Gaia Online

                          GameFAQs

                          Gelbooru

                          GeneralMotors

                          Geocaching

                          GeoEstimation

                          Gettr

                          Giphy

                          GitHub

                          Glassdoor

                          GoFundMe

                          Goo

                          Google

                          Goodreads

                          Gravatar

                          Guancha

                          GunBroker

                          Habbo

                          Hackaday

                          Hatena

                          Honda

                          Hubski

                          ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                          ImageShack

                          Imgur

                          IMVU

                          Indeed

                          Instagram

                          Instructables

                          JudyRecords

                          Jugem

                          JustForFans

                          Keybase

                          Kick

                          Kik

                          Last.fm

                          LibraryThing

                          Lichess

                          Likee

                          Line

                          LinkedIn

                          Linktree

                          LiveIn

                          LiveJournal

                          Lobsters

                          Mail.ru

                          Malgari

                          MapMyTracks

                          Marshmallow

                          MarTech

                          Massage Anywhere

                          Medium

                          MeetMe

                          Mercari Jp

                          MeWe

                          Minds

                          Minecraft

                          Mix

                          Mixlr

                          ModDB

                          Mughosts

                          MyFitnessPal

                          Myspace

                          MySubaru

                          Naijapals

                          Nextdoor

                          NissanUSA

                          Odysee

                          OFAC Sanctions List

                          OkCupid

                          OK.ru

                          OnlyFans

                          Pandia

                          Pandora

                          Passes

                          Pastebin

                          Patreon

                          PayPal

                          PCGamer

                          Peloton

                          PGP

                          Pinterest

                          Plurk

                          Poal

                          Popl

                          Pornhub

                          Poshmark

                          Product Hunt

                          ProtonMail

                          PSNProfiles

                          Reblogme

                          Reddit

                          RedGifs

                          Replit

                          ReverbNation

                          Roblox

                          Rule34.xxx

                          Rumble

                          Rutube

                          ScoutWiki

                          Seesaa

                          Seneporno

                          Signal

                          SkipTheGames

                          Skype

                          SlideShare

                          Snapchat

                          Sogou

                          SoundCloud

                          SourceForge

                          Spiceworks

                          Spotify

                          Sprashivai

                          Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                          StellantisEU

                          StellantisUSA

                          Strava

                          Stripchat

                          Substack

                          TechNet

                          Telegram

                          Tellows

                          Tesseract OCR

                          Threads

                          TikTok

                          Tinder

                          TinEye

                          ToyotaUSA

                          Trakt

                          Triller

                          TripAdvisor

                          TrueCaller

                          TruthSocial

                          Tumblr

                          Twilio

                          Twitch

                          Twitter

                          Untappd

                          Venmo

                          VidLii

                          Vimeo

                          Vine

                          VirusTotal

                          VK

                          Volkswagen

                          VSCO

                          WatchMeMore

                          Weibo

                          WhatsApp

                          Wire

                          Wordfeud

                          Xbox

                          xHamster

                          XING

                          XVideos

                          Yahoo

                          Yandex

                          Yappy

                          YCombinator

                          Yelp

                          YouTube

                          Zhihu

                          Zillow

                          ZoneH

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                          #24

                          Why tf is PGP, tesseract ocr, and deepl on this list. Deepl is literally just a machine translation service, users don't post onto it. tesseract ocr is a downloadable software for ocr. PGP is encryption.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            If that's true, why bother "monitoring" a search engine? This whole list screams of somebody who knows nothing about tech put out a vague RFP and a contractor pulled a list of "top sites" and used it to justify an egregious proposal cost.

                            DOGE, if you're looking for waste and fraud, perhaps here's a good source.

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                            #25

                            They do it all to build up a huge web of interconnected data points. Duckduckgo itself they might take as evidence that someone is trying to hide something. Then the government goes to a FISA court and gets permission to have other tech companies hand over all your data. Its not any one site its the picture that can be gleamed from all the data available across all the sites.

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                            • P [email protected]

                              What are they monitoring on Amazon, the fake reviews?

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                              #26

                              Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Likely every product any amazon customer ever views. They could potentially even figure out which things you buy. But you can get a pretty clear picture of someone's personality and interests if you know everything they search for.

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                                #27

                                How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                                • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                  Thanks for the list. Unfortunately, they list "Fediverse" which likely means they're scraping ActivityPub. They're also going after your Steam account, Twitch, YouTube, and porn.

                                  In other words, this is so much worse than the headline makes it out to be.

                                  Surprisingly, Reddit is NOT on the list.

                                  Here's the full list of names:

                                  4chan Archives

                                  Discord Archives

                                  21Buttons

                                  500px

                                  about.me

                                  AllMyLinks

                                  AllTrails

                                  Amazon

                                  Ameba

                                  Amino

                                  AnimePlanet

                                  Apple Music

                                  Artists&Clients

                                  Asciinema

                                  AudioJungle

                                  AudiUSA

                                  BabyCenter

                                  Baidu

                                  BeReal

                                  Bigo Live

                                  Bing

                                  Biolink

                                  BitChute

                                  BlackPlanet

                                  Blogger

                                  Bluesky

                                  Bodybuilding

                                  BookCrossing

                                  Breaches

                                  BuyMeACoffee

                                  Cash App

                                  CastingCall Club

                                  Chaturbate

                                  Chess.com

                                  Cigar Dojo

                                  CityXGuide

                                  CloutHub

                                  Cocolog

                                  Companies House

                                  Cozy.tv

                                  Cracked

                                  Creema

                                  Dailymotion

                                  Danbooru

                                  Dark Web

                                  DeepL

                                  DeviantArt

                                  Disqus

                                  DLive

                                  Dot.cards

                                  Douyin

                                  Drum

                                  DuckDuckGo

                                  Duolingo

                                  E621

                                  eBay

                                  Eporner

                                  Etsy

                                  Facebook

                                  Fansly

                                  FastPeopleSearch

                                  Fediverse (likely ActivityPub - possibly DMs between servers)

                                  FetLife

                                  Fiverr

                                  Flickr

                                  FlightAware

                                  Foursquare

                                  FriendFinder

                                  FurAffinity

                                  Gab

                                  Gaia Online

                                  GameFAQs

                                  Gelbooru

                                  GeneralMotors

                                  Geocaching

                                  GeoEstimation

                                  Gettr

                                  Giphy

                                  GitHub

                                  Glassdoor

                                  GoFundMe

                                  Goo

                                  Google

                                  Goodreads

                                  Gravatar

                                  Guancha

                                  GunBroker

                                  Habbo

                                  Hackaday

                                  Hatena

                                  Honda

                                  Hubski

                                  ILoveGrowingMarijuana

                                  ImageShack

                                  Imgur

                                  IMVU

                                  Indeed

                                  Instagram

                                  Instructables

                                  JudyRecords

                                  Jugem

                                  JustForFans

                                  Keybase

                                  Kick

                                  Kik

                                  Last.fm

                                  LibraryThing

                                  Lichess

                                  Likee

                                  Line

                                  LinkedIn

                                  Linktree

                                  LiveIn

                                  LiveJournal

                                  Lobsters

                                  Mail.ru

                                  Malgari

                                  MapMyTracks

                                  Marshmallow

                                  MarTech

                                  Massage Anywhere

                                  Medium

                                  MeetMe

                                  Mercari Jp

                                  MeWe

                                  Minds

                                  Minecraft

                                  Mix

                                  Mixlr

                                  ModDB

                                  Mughosts

                                  MyFitnessPal

                                  Myspace

                                  MySubaru

                                  Naijapals

                                  Nextdoor

                                  NissanUSA

                                  Odysee

                                  OFAC Sanctions List

                                  OkCupid

                                  OK.ru

                                  OnlyFans

                                  Pandia

                                  Pandora

                                  Passes

                                  Pastebin

                                  Patreon

                                  PayPal

                                  PCGamer

                                  Peloton

                                  PGP

                                  Pinterest

                                  Plurk

                                  Poal

                                  Popl

                                  Pornhub

                                  Poshmark

                                  Product Hunt

                                  ProtonMail

                                  PSNProfiles

                                  Reblogme

                                  Reddit

                                  RedGifs

                                  Replit

                                  ReverbNation

                                  Roblox

                                  Rule34.xxx

                                  Rumble

                                  Rutube

                                  ScoutWiki

                                  Seesaa

                                  Seneporno

                                  Signal

                                  SkipTheGames

                                  Skype

                                  SlideShare

                                  Snapchat

                                  Sogou

                                  SoundCloud

                                  SourceForge

                                  Spiceworks

                                  Spotify

                                  Sprashivai

                                  Steam (fuck off you fucking fucks)

                                  StellantisEU

                                  StellantisUSA

                                  Strava

                                  Stripchat

                                  Substack

                                  TechNet

                                  Telegram

                                  Tellows

                                  Tesseract OCR

                                  Threads

                                  TikTok

                                  Tinder

                                  TinEye

                                  ToyotaUSA

                                  Trakt

                                  Triller

                                  TripAdvisor

                                  TrueCaller

                                  TruthSocial

                                  Tumblr

                                  Twilio

                                  Twitch

                                  Twitter

                                  Untappd

                                  Venmo

                                  VidLii

                                  Vimeo

                                  Vine

                                  VirusTotal

                                  VK

                                  Volkswagen

                                  VSCO

                                  WatchMeMore

                                  Weibo

                                  WhatsApp

                                  Wire

                                  Wordfeud

                                  Xbox

                                  xHamster

                                  XING

                                  XVideos

                                  Yahoo

                                  Yandex

                                  Yappy

                                  YCombinator

                                  Yelp

                                  YouTube

                                  Zhihu

                                  Zillow

                                  ZoneH

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                                  Vine? Didn’t that close down back in 2016?

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                                    How would they find that info from the outside, though? Or are you saying they are hooked into Amazon's internal data harvesting ecosystem?

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                                    Not really necessary people make DNS requests which are pretty easy to track if you know what URL was requested that will be the exact product. This can all be done by man in the middle and monitoring network traffic. But even that is sort of unnecessary. They could very possibly have contracts with ISPs or other network operators some of that is likely just secret and they dont disclose it.

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