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As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia

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  • M [email protected]

    Are they?

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    No.

    Graham Fraser
    Technology reporter

    Signal, compared with other messaging apps, has added security features to protect the privacy of its users.

    Conversations on the app are end-to-end encrypted, which means they can only be read by the recipients. Signal can’t even read what has been sent.

    But security is only as good as the person using it.

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      Could everyone please stop repeating "nothing will ever come of this" every time fucked up shit happens?

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      Until someone actually faces consequences, it's just people spitting truth sadly.

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      • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

        Love the way THE BBC is trying to make signal sound like some hackers playset, really shows how much the UK gov hate encryption or people having any privacy at all.

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        It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.

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        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

          You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

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          No I'm pretty sure they would support Daddy putin controlling amerikkka

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          • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            I don't think it can, it's a flagship because it's the first instance, being run by the main devs as a demonstration of Lemmy's capabilities so it's always on the latest beta version at least.

            But, they could just stop using it as a tool to further their own political stances and have it actually be a "generalist" instance. For that though, they'd have to give up being the admins of it, which they'll probably never do.

            It is of concern yes, but maybe if the wider Lemmy-verse defeded from them it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders by being able to point to a clear and visible action like defederation.

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            Damn - as I love Lemmy and believe in the mission it's hard to square that with tankie devs

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            • M [email protected]

              It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.

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              Well I use it and have put it on relatives phones so they can communicate with me easily, ideally though I'd use Threema but yeah signals a lot better than other free alternatives.

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                Sounds like a bunch of traitors.

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                  One example of this is when I called out some Hexbear users for their bullshit propaganda and then when they started brigading against me and making literal death threats, the .ml mod swooped in, deleted my comments, and gave me a temporary ban. The hexbear users comments remained visible including the death threats.

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                  Rule 1, 2

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                  • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    Right, those shouldn't be conflated (the protocols vs the phone/persons security properties).I think anyone actively targeted by a major govt power is probably fucked though. Pegasus has taught us that, so while signal is probably a pretty secure protocol, phones definitely have a lot of vulnerabilities.

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                    Indeed. So are digital hygiene practices.

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                    • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

                      OK, my time to pick nits: There is a clear and present threat. China, Russia and certainly the US as well have teams of cryptographers looking at software such as Signal and analysing every update and change made in order to spot potential openings. The threat towards Signal however is comparatively small because there are tens if not hundreds of times as many people checking the code as well and reporting back to Signal because of its Open-source nature.

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                      As far as I'm aware the encryption can't really be broken given the current amount of compute. Is anyone aware of what potential vulnerabilities there could be to the Signal protocol outside of brute forcing? How hard is it to crack a private public key exchange?

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                      • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

                        OK, my time to pick nits: There is a clear and present threat. China, Russia and certainly the US as well have teams of cryptographers looking at software such as Signal and analysing every update and change made in order to spot potential openings. The threat towards Signal however is comparatively small because there are tens if not hundreds of times as many people checking the code as well and reporting back to Signal because of its Open-source nature.

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                        That's exactly my point. I work in security, specifically versus threat actors. I don't typically deal with State actors, but on occasion I do. Those are the real problem.

                        You're writing the concerns, suggestions, and warnings I would give.

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                        • sexualpolytope@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                          I think it's disingenuous to try to suggest that communists have anything to do with it. It's purely an oligarchical shithole.

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                          Putin was KGB. The fact that the sleeper argent Krasnov awoke 38 years after his recruitment is testament to the Soviet program's effectiveness.

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                          • palerider@feddit.ukP [email protected]

                            No.

                            Graham Fraser
                            Technology reporter

                            Signal, compared with other messaging apps, has added security features to protect the privacy of its users.

                            Conversations on the app are end-to-end encrypted, which means they can only be read by the recipients. Signal can’t even read what has been sent.

                            But security is only as good as the person using it.

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                            Damage control look up their original articles on trump.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              It also goes to show that Signal may actually be worth its salt in regards to security.

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                              You use Signal to avoid government surveillance.

                              I use Signal to avoid government accountability.

                              We are not the same.

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                                It looks like you're using an ad blocker.

                                Well, can't read that website.

                                Plasters some big dead thing from a website called "getadmiral.com" over the page that I can't remove.

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                                  Jesus fucking Russian assets...

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                                    The entire Government of Putin is a huge cluster fuck. Send them all to fucking Moscow, one-way.

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                                      Sounds like a bunch of traitors.

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                                      Are you just figuring that out now? Attacking all its allies is what did it for me.

                                      The US is a captured state now, and there are only a few ways out; voting is not one of them.

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                                      • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                                        It looks like you're using an ad blocker.

                                        Well, can't read that website.

                                        Plasters some big dead thing from a website called "getadmiral.com" over the page that I can't remove.

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                                        I'm not sure if this helps, but I use uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger in Firefox and can read it.

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          Lol I wear my ban with pride. All you have to do is go over there and use the word 'tankie'. They really don't like that word for some reason.

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                                          And yet the worst of them link to tankie.tube videos. Fuggin.... I dunno.

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