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What do you believe that most people of your political creed don't?

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    I believe in the possibility of bigfoot being real.

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    Okay, but where is it now?

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      The left has become so focused on illegal immigrants and identity politics that they have abandoned working class economic issues and rural white voters and it has cost them elections.

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      If the left you're talking about is the dems, no the fuck they aren't. Dems aren't the ones constantly putting forth bills about Trans people. The most any dem has done is post some milqtoast "trans rights" sticker or something.

      But I agree I think the dems shouldn't have justified the fear mongering about immigrants when the right started screeching about it. But that's also on news orgs justifying it.

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        I am progressive as heck, but wow the Republicans fixed the DMV here by running it like a business. Not every part of government is amenable to that (which is where they go wrong) but some departments really can.

        Also I am pro choice very much so, but personally wouldn't have, and didn't have, any abortion, I don't like it, find it horrifying. Like, my personal choice was hell no. I understand that the consequences of prohibiting abortion are much, much more damaging than allowing them, and do also think the existing woman has more rights than the potential person so maybe that isn't a political difference.

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        1. I'd argue the pandemic is what fixed the dmv, not running it like a business.

        2. It's often lost that in the pro-choice conversation, chosing to keep the pregnancy is also a valid choice.

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          Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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          I believe that the stance against nuclear power (specifically, nuclear fission, as opposed to radioisotope power used by spacecraft) by greens undermines the fight to stop global warming, and that many of the purported issues with nuclear power have been solved or were never really issues in the first place.

          For instance: the nuclear waste produced by old-gen reactors can be used by newer generations.

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            I lean pretty hard left who is also pro death-penalty (IN VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES)

            • If the case has absolutely been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

            • All appeals have been exhausted.

            • Proof is absolutely undeniable.

            • Guilty party shows no remorse.

            • Crime is suffiently heinous (mass murder, child killing, serial killers, etc...)

            • A legitimate psychiatric board has deemed that there is little to no chance at rehabilitation nor does the guilty party show any inclination to want to rehabilitate.

            if ALL those things are true, (plus some that I haven't even considered) then I would rather execute them than pay for their living expenses for the rest of their natural life, or worse see them released at the end of their sentance absolutely knowing that they'll do it again.

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            The problem that runs into is that afaik even with the not as undeniable proofs the US is using atm the death penalty costs them more than paying for the living expenses of the suspect. And that is nothing to speak of no proof being undeniable enough.

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              As someone who was in a supportive relationship with a transgender person for 3 years and who personally struggles associating with my own gender, I never really got into the stating my gender pronouns.

              I get why it's done for the times it matters and can do so in a sensitive space, but I get the sense it's usually done as public compliance (like a cis neolib as an email sig), which can lead to shallow support or worse, resentment. What we ultimately need is more genuine contact with people different from ourselves because that helps reduce "othering" a group.

              Oh, but I do tend to default to "they" out of old internet habits. Always disliked the assumption all gamers are men.

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              I do think stating pronouns at the beginning of conversations is a bit clunky, but in almost every internet interactions (including email),having a reference to someone's pronouns helps both when they're trans and when it's faceless. Like if someone's has a gender neutral name, it can save confusion between a group message or email chain to be able to refer to them with the right pronouns.

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              • E [email protected]

                Stop out-woking one another, it's okay to be right silently in order to bring in fence sitters.

                If someone says, "my spirit animal told me late-stage capitalism is evil" welcome them to the club with open arms, focus on how you're alike and trust them to work out their faux pas over time spent among like-minded peers.

                Also cultural appropriation ≠ exploitation, we can stop clutching our collective pearls over these faux pas.

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                Cultural appropriation is specifically a method in which suppressing groups deny the cultural heritage of oppressed around. To call it a faux pas is ridiculous and ignorant

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                  I don't like racism against white people or sexism against men. Do I think they're less urgent or worrying than bigotry directed at other groups? Sure. There's less hate against men and whites compared to other demographic groups, and bigotry against them simply doesn't have the same social or political impact due to current systemic racism and sexism being directed at other groups. But bigotry is still bigotry, and I don't like bigotry against anyone.

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                  That is ignorant to what racism actually is. Racism is not just a set of unconnected rude actions towards someone but specifically exists within a cultural context that subjugates certain groups. Racism upholds that oppressive framework and racial bias in statements and beliefs help to encourage that false framing of the world. White men aren’t oppressed in the same way that a racial minority woman is and to say it is racism or sexism all the same is to downplay those specific experiences and cultural norm that holds certain groups and the individuals within those groups down.

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                    I am unsure about when it stops being moral to terminate a foetus/baby. I think it's somewhere between 6 and 14 months, but that's just my gut feeling. Some people are astonished that I would even consider that it could be after birth, but it's not like any sudden development occurs at the moment of birth.

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                    I dislike criminalization at all because if a doctor at any point has to consider if they can prove that an abortion was medically necessary in a court of law, I find that to be a violation of their ability to care for their patient.

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                      Is it moral to kill a 2-year old because the parents no longer want it?

                      I'm sure that abortion is fine for the first few months. After that, I am unsure either way, but I don't feel strongly enough to wish to see abortion rights curtailed at all. So this is largely academic.

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                      The 2 year old can exist separately from their parent. A fetus can't, in most abortion cases.

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                        Just specifying the proofs have to be solid bugs you? How weird.

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                        Yeah, of course, death penalty is never acceptable and must be abolished entirely. Even setting aside that no proof of a physical event can be 100% solid, or all the other practicality arguments; even the worst rapists, murderers, terrorists and billionaires are still humans and do not deserve death.

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                          Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain't dead. Remember, don't downvote for disagreements.

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                          Y'all don't need to keep adding things to lgbtq or lgbt+. The q or + takes care of everything

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                            Why do you assert this? Based on what moral framework? Is it morally okay to abandon a baby to the elements after birth, in favour of the autonomy of those who would raise it?

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                            Based on the moral frame work that no person has a right to another person's body parts. We don't take organs from people who haven't explicitly said they're organ donors even after death, because that axiom is held so high. If I accidently hit you with my car, I have no legal obligation to donate a kidney to you to save your life.

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                            • ultragigagigantic@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

                              People should be free to vote outside the two party system secure in the knowledge that their vote will still be counted if their preference didn't win.

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                              First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

                              Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

                              STAR voting

                              Alternative vote

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                              Single Transferable Vote

                              Mixed Member Proportional representation
                              :::

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                              Strongly agree, though is this really an unpopular take?

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                                I feel like one obvious answer is "stop being so eager to alienate cis straight white men"

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                                I think a lot of conversation is "men go to therapy" but therapy alone isn't enough? We kind of cast men off of having all the privilege in the world without recognizing that patriarchy hurts them too, and in lots of facets of their lives in a way that just going to a therapist once a week does not help.

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                                • comfy@lemmy.mlC [email protected]

                                  The white nationalist movement preys on alienated young white men (more than other groups). Creating avenues for including these people in our movement means less people we have to fight.

                                  I'm not saying everyone is able to fit into our movement, or they may require so much education that we just don't have the resources to depropagandize them, but as a mass movement, more is generally better.

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                                  I think the most insidious part is that the far right feeds on men's anger and negative emotions and just keeps telling them that if they go farther right, if they become more dominant alpha male, it'll make all their negative emotions go away. And then when it doesn't, they just keep pushing right.

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                                    I am very very very left wing, but

                                    Everytime I see someone say this I know without a shadow of a doubt that they're a centrist liberal.

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                                    wrong, I support the green party (multi-party system, you should try it)

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                                      I've been thinking of starting some sort of group to help with that goal-- would you be interested? I'm not sure what we could do, but I want to do something, you know? I figure the best impact I can have is to convince other people that I mostly agree with to adopt this approach, which is what I envision the group could help with.

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                                      I'm curious

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                                        wrong, I support the green party (multi-party system, you should try it)

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                                        Lol, thanks for proving my point

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                                          Huh. Mid 20th century? But that’s when America transitioned to relatively high and progressive income taxes instead of relying on tariffs. It’s also when massive state spending on education lead to a large chunk of Americans being able to care about something other than themselves, a precursor to progressivism in America and the civil rights movement.

                                          If anything, I think Americans appear to want to go back to the Gilded Age, known for its massive inequality, corruption, and excessive-wealth-flaunting.

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                                          He recently said something about the 20s and 30s. That's when he considered America great, apparently.

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