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    The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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    Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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    • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

      It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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      You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

      $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

      Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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      • B [email protected]

        Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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        Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
        (That's) (great!)

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        • B [email protected]

          Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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          Lisps makes more sense to me though

          (if condition a b)

          VS

          a if condition else b

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          • V [email protected]

            Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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            Because of all the garbage

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            • L [email protected]

              You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

              $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

              Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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              #46

              You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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              • V [email protected]

                Full circle 😆

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                #47

                Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                  Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                    Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                    * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                    The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                      * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                      The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                      Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

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                        Because of all the garbage

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                        Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Lisps makes more sense to me though

                          (if condition a b)

                          VS

                          a if condition else b

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                          I was more talking about (+ a b) and such.

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                          • D [email protected]

                            The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                            At least you guys have ternary syntax cries in kotlin.

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                              You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                              $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                              Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                              perl -e 'print "fart\n" if 1;'

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                              • S [email protected]

                                You know, the stuff in @_

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                                heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                  heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                  The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

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                                    The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

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                                    It certainly has its issues. I find that the things people have trouble with are the things I tend to like about it. Of course, reading it later is a problem sometimes. 🙂

                                    Write only language!

                                    I still reach for it sometimes.

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                                      Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                                      No they're not supposed to be piling it up

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                                      • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                        It certainly has its issues. I find that the things people have trouble with are the things I tend to like about it. Of course, reading it later is a problem sometimes. 🙂

                                        Write only language!

                                        I still reach for it sometimes.

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                                        The point of code is to be read by other humans, not just computers.

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                                          The point of code is to be read by other humans, not just computers.

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                                          Sure. Nothing stopping you writing readable well commented perl. Just avoid some of the more terse statements. It can be a challenge though.

                                          Shrug. If you don't like Perl, don't use it.

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