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  • satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

    Are you just referring to how Python uses the English and/or instead of the more common &&/||? I think what the user above you was talking about was Lua's strange ternary syntax using and/or.

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    #37

    no, the linked table shows how python also returns the first non-falsey result of an a or b expression rather than just giving a boolean. it's useful for initialising optional reference args:

    def foo(a: list = None)
        a = a or []
    

    works with and as well.

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    • E [email protected]

      For optimal performance, you should rewrite it in Rust:

      inline_python::python! {
          print(js2py.eval_js("(number) => number % 2 ? 'odd' : 'even'")(number))
      };
      
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      #38

      And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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        And now you can use wasm to run it in a browser!

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        #39

        Full circle 😆

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        • S [email protected]

          Please. That's C's ternary operator. JS is just a pile of garbage cosplaying as a programming language

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          #40

          Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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          • D [email protected]

            The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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            Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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            • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

              It's kinda natural to me having used Perl a lot.

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              #42

              You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

              $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

              Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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              • B [email protected]

                Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                #43

                Oh, (you) (really) (like) (Lisp)?
                (That's) (great!)

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                  Eh, reads pretty naturally to me. That said, (like I lisp)

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                  #44

                  Lisps makes more sense to me though

                  (if condition a b)

                  VS

                  a if condition else b

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                  • V [email protected]

                    Why do you say it's a pile of garbage?

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                    #45

                    Because of all the garbage

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                    • L [email protected]

                      You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                      $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                      Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                      #46

                      You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                        Full circle 😆

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                        #47

                        Make sure the browser is made using Rust and run on a VM running on Linux, compiled to WASM.

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                          Just send pseudo code to AI and compile straight to binary.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            You do get the if in the middle of stuff though in the form print(debug message) if $debug

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                            Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                            * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                            The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                              Wait until you learn that postfix conditionals are syntactic sugar and the compiler* turns that line into the equivalent of $debug and print(debug message), putting the conditional in first place, a lot like the ternary operator.

                              * Perl compiles to bytecode before running.

                              The ternary operator itself isn't implemented in terms of and (and or) but it could be.

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                              Luckily I don't need to read or write bytecode and all that matters to me is the syntax

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Because of all the garbage

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                                Clearly the garbage collector is too effective

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  Lisps makes more sense to me though

                                  (if condition a b)

                                  VS

                                  a if condition else b

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                                  #52

                                  I was more talking about (+ a b) and such.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    The ternary syntax is really my only real gripe with python design -- putting the conditional BETWEEN the true and false values feels so very messy to me.

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                                    At least you guys have ternary syntax cries in kotlin.

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                                      You clearly haven't used Perl a lot. Perl's ternary looks like:

                                      $even = $num % 2 ? "nay" : "yay";

                                      Incidentally, it is also the same as PHP's, but mainly because PHP stole it.

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                                      perl -e 'print "fart\n" if 1;'

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        You know, the stuff in @_

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                                        heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                        • rbos@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                                          heheh. I wasn't really making an argument though

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                                          #56

                                          The joke was that Perl is a clusterfuck

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